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Getting Ready for Doomsday

Start Storing The Seeds

from JoeUser Forums

 

Have you heard about the Doomsday Vault?  I read about it in the paper a week or so ago.   It's basically a seed bank or vault built to last 10,000 years and is situated near the North Pole.  It's the coldest place they could find and they call it officially the  Svalbard Global Seed Vault.

This vault is located in a place ( I'm not kidding) called Longyearbyen. It's part of a series of Islands with a temperature of 30 below zero.  It's due North of Europe and has a population of about 2,000 people.  This place is overseen by Norway and it's very artic there to say the least.  They say there are more Polar Bears and Reindeer in this place than anything else.  In the winter the sun never rises.    And I thought the long Maine winters were bad. 

This seed ark cost 9 million dollars to build.  Norway supplied the funds.   Bill Gates paid for the shipping. Individual countries from all over the globe are supplying the seeds from their crops. 

Scientists are collecting over a billion seeds from all over the world to keep deep inside this vault in case of a major world wide catastrophe or some sort of crop extinction.   These seeds, stored in boxes, are flown in by plane.  There is an airstrip at the base of the mountain where this vault is situated.  The Scientists are saying they are housing seeds that took 10,000 years to develop and they don't want to lose any more than already lost as a result of extinction.  Really?  10,000 years?

From the outside this vault or seed ark looks just like a big concrete wedge slammed into a mountainside.  Inside there are pipes that give additional refrigeration.  It is so cold in this vault that even if the earth warms and we lose all power, the vault is supposed to stay frozen for another 25 years past that. 

So the question is, will this someday serve to save the world? 

 

 

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
In fact, there was a horrible story about people being stupid in regards to this kind of "God will save us if we believe" crap. Caused an 11 year old girl to die because the stupid parents thought praying was better medicine than...you know, medicine.

Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help
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So doctors save 100% of those brought to hospitals? Hmm, didn't know that.

I don't know how sick this girl was, zoologist, so I don't know whether the parent's decision was rational or not. Nor do you, unless there's something you're not telling us. But I do have a problem with mocking people who look to God for answers.

I'm intrigued by the seed vault, I think at the very least, it could provide a valuable "time capsule" for future scientists. And the fact that it's largely privately funded is an added plus. But I also KNOW that ultimately God will provide. Perhaps Charles is right. Perhaps God laid this on someone's heart because it is His way of providing. I can't know, either way.
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top
Something to think off: If we lose all power, if doomsday is going to be so horrible, and there's no one inside the thing, then with what I've read at how it was built, how will we get into it?
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Well, that dude from I am Legend was pretty good at breaking bulletproof glass, maybe we could hire out him and his buddies to bust their way in...just before dawn, of course, so we could get the heck out of there before they got up the next night.

Err, wait...six hours of night...guess we better make sure we do it in June.
Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #28 from Stardock Forums Top

So doctors save 100% of those brought to hospitals? Hmm, didn't know that. I don't know how sick this girl was, zoologist, so I don't know whether the parent's decision was rational or not. Nor do you, unless there's something you're not telling us. But I do have a problem with mocking people who look to God for answers.
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Or you know...it was freakin' treatable.

An 11-year-old girl died after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical help for a treatable form of diabetes, police said Tuesday.

Also, the crazy doesn't stop:

The mother believes the girl could still be resurrected, the police chief said.

Also, this crap had been going on for a month.

Everest Metro Police Chief Dan Vergin said Madeline Neumann died Sunday.

"She got sicker and sicker until she was dead," he said.

Vergin said an autopsy determined the girl died from diabetic ketoacidosis, an ailment that left her with too little insulin in her body, and she had probably been ill for about 30 days, suffering symptoms like nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.

Praying about cancer I can understand...but a treatable disease when the girl never set foot in the hospital?  No, that's insanity.

~Zoo

Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
No. I was referring to this:
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I see "He" not she in your statement.
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Oh Lord, sue me for a (as LW would say) typo. he/she look very similar to me but I guess I see why LW despises you so much, you too are so much alike, except for LW's choice of words.

don't get so huffy. All I said is I had never heard of this. I'm not saying it's not true. I know quite a bit about churches being the wife of a Pastor and have been involved in many churches my whole life from all denominations. Not one church I was affiliated with hid illegals. The proof is on you. While I'm not saying it may not be done, I have a feeling you're making it out to be much greater than it is. How many churches are hiding illegals?
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Oh yes, the wife of a Pastor. That's suppose to make it OK. So you never saw a church hiding illegals and that's good enough for you to dismiss my words? Typical, God forbid people actually did a bit of research on anything. Oh yea, I forgot, you were waiting for God to do it for you. Ah, and now it's the amount of churches that do it as well. Wow, talk about making excuses.

There are no contradicitions. You're just looking for an excuse. There are two ways to "wait on God." It's sort of like waiting for a movie to come to town. I'm waiting for the movie "Expelled" to be released. But I'm not sitting here not doing anything while I wait. I'm keeping busy but still waiting for the release. Another way is when the movie does get here, I will be in line doing nothing else but waiting to get in the door. I will drop everything and wait for the immediate showing of this movie. It's the same way with us and God.
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What ever. Believe what you want, in the end this discussion is pointless cause religion is not fact, it's faith and we can sit here for the next thousands of years and we'll probably always have a different point of view on something. And what's this whole "wait on God" thing? Why are you waiting on God? He has his time set for you, go on with your life till it's your time. I'm not waiting on God, I'm doing what I gotta do till my number is up. The day it's my turn to face judgment I hope I have done what I was suppose to do. And if I failed, then I'll take my punishment.

I strongly disagree with your first statement here especially. More of a lesson? Ummm No. He was the Passover Lamb that would take away the sins of the world. Remember John 3:16?

Congratulations what you have just done is define a works based theology which is pretty much 99.9% of all the religions out there. You need to work your way to heaven. That is NOT what Christ nor his Apostles taught. Nobody can be "good enough" to work there way in.
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And that's your right to, I won't take that away from you. I was told that the day i was born I was a sinner, so that means my path lead to hell from day 1. Having lived this many years and hopefully more I believe I have been granted the chance to change my fate before my time comes. Will I make it to heaven someday, only God knows. I can only hope my good outweighs my bad, because I won't deny I have not always done the right thing though I have done the right thing more often than not.

God gave us his revealed word. In it he tells us about himself. He reveals himself to mankind. Many call his word a love letter to mankind. I would agree with that. What I hear you saying is you're ok. You've got your own way...you've got it all taken care of. Good.

So we should worry about the afterlife when it comes?

Is that how you plan a trip? You worry about it when it gets here? No flight plans? No reservations for hotels? No saving up to make sure you have what it takes to even make the trip happen in the first place?

Sorry. I look at the afterlife as taking a long trip to eternity. I've already made my reservations and got my mansion registered.
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See what I mean? You couldn't even admit I was right, it had to be your way or the highway. God created the Earth, the animals, the plants and the elements according to our beliefs. God created man. God gave us his words by which to live our lives, but as you may see he was not specific enough since we have so many variations of what the bible says and what people wanna believe.

Made your reservations? A Mansion? Man, do you have high hopes. You are 100% positive you are going to heaven aren't you? No doubt what so ever? You must be the perfect human being that is believed not to exist. Eternity is not a trip you plan for, there is nothing you could possible do to prepare for something you have never been to or seen. Eternity is a place where only the select few can reach and regardless how much you wanna think you have set yourself up for this event, it's up to God to decided if your "reservations" are valid. I find it funny how the wife of a Pastor gave herself a free pass to Heaven without consulting the Big Man first. or are you gonna tell me God came to you in a vision or revelation and told you "you need not to worry, your spot has been reserved already"? Kinda cocky of you don't you think? At least I'm willing to admit I have faults and that there's always a chance I may not pass the gates of Heaven, again that's up to God to decide.

Here's my idea of what I believe reaching God and his Eternity is like. I see it as a job, I was hired (born) to do a job, my goal is to make it to the highest position possible (Heaven). Thru out the years I do the best I can do to earn my positions in life and when the time comes my Boss (God) will decided if I have earned my way to the top or I failed miserable and get fired (sent to hell).

I'm not sitting back waiting for a movie, I working to earn my spot in the theater for when the movie comes I hope I'm worthy enough to be able to see it.

Look KFC, I'm not looking to start or continue a religious war here with you. You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. If all goes well in the end, I hope to be sharing good times on the other side of the gates of Heaven with you. In the end our beliefs may be different, but our goals are the same. To each his own.
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
So doctors save 100% of those brought to hospitals? Hmm, didn't know that.

I don't know how sick this girl was, zoologist, so I don't know whether the parent's decision was rational or not. Nor do you, unless there's something you're not telling us. But I do have a problem with mocking people who look to God for answers.
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I'm not too sure you should be having any opinions about a child suffering considering whats been going on in you life. If anything you should be taking stories like this one and learning a well earned lesson from them. God forbid you would ever chose to use such an excuse if one of your children was fatally harmed under your "supervision" and I use that term very loosely. Man I am so embarrassed to believe I asked you for advice on religion. KFC, I'm starting to question the whole "God will provide" thing when children are being hurt in religious environments.
Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
And that is why my views on God are much more different than those like of KFC, which makes me wonder if he name was in a sense meant as hinting to be funny.

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I see "He" not she in your statement.

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Years on the net teaches fluency in typoese.  Charles said "wonder if he name was" indicating that the place the word "he" occupied was a place for a possessive pronoun.  "she" is not a possessive pronoun, so that must not be the typo.  That would make the clause read "wonder if she name was."  Nope, not that. 

 

Invoking knowledge of typoese, we see that the likely pronoun is not "his."  A typo in "his" would be 'hes', maybe, or "hi.'  This typo was, in fact, supposed to be the word "her" but inadvertantly the 'r' got left off.  Now the phrase reads "wonder if her name was."  Very simple mystery that only requires minimal deductive capability solved.

Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top
Years on the net teaches fluency in typoese.
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Thanks for the lesson. ;)
Reply #33 from Stardock Forums Top

Invoking knowledge of typoese, we see that the likely pronoun is not "his." A typo in "his" would be 'hes', maybe, or "hi.' This typo was, in fact, supposed to be the word "her" but inadvertantly the 'r' got left off. Now the phrase reads "wonder if her name was." Very simple mystery that only requires minimal deductive capability solved.
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My first thought was to ask....what are you an English teacher?  You do seem to be a lover of words Ock. 

But this wasn't the only instance I was referring to as far as he calling me a he.  It was only the latest and on this particular blog.  So I just went with the "he" printed.  But I guess somewhere along the way he's figured out that the he is really a she as he said here.

Straight on that?    ;P

but yes, thanks for the lesson. 

and SP sorry I did delete you for bad language.  If you'd like to repharase that in a less vulgar way...go for it. 

Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

KFC, I'm starting to question the whole "God will provide" thing when children are being hurt in religious environments.
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You know Charles, I don't mean to set you off or anything....really.  But you have a huge chip on your shoulder.  You're fighting with anyone that gets anywhere near you.  Trying to pit LW against me or me against her is nothing but trouble making and you've done that quite a few times now.   I'm sorry for that.  If you want an honest conversation, please be respectful.  I love to debate, in a friendly sort of way but really don't want to exchange barbs just for the sake of doing so.

Children are being hurt because there is sin in the world.  People are being hurt because there is sin in the world.  Don't blame God. Why does He always get the bad rap?  This is not a surprise.  Christ said we would have tribulation in the world.  Such is the nature of the world.  But even in the midst of trials and tribulations many blessings and testimonies have flowed.   God is with us in our darkest moments.  He whispers to us in our joy but he shouts to us in our pain.  God is there for those who are looking for him. 

When you find yourself in the worst moments of your life, God's word steps out of the page and comes alive. 

Here's my idea of what I believe reaching God and his Eternity is like. I see it as a job, I was hired (born) to do a job, my goal is to make it to the highest position possible (Heaven). Thru out the years I do the best I can do to earn my positions in life and when the time comes my Boss (God) will decided if I have earned my way to the top or I failed miserable and get fired (sent to hell).
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You say you detest religion but this is evidence of your Catholic upbringing.  I was Catholic so I know.  It's works based.  What kind of a God is going to leave you hanging there with no thought of if you've done good enough until the end?  Why would you want to serve a God like that?  Leave you with no instructions....just hope your good outweighs your bad? 

That's not what Christ taught.  He taught it eternity is like treasure.  You will do all you can do, go to all the extremes to possess this treasure, even selling all your worldly goods in order to obtain it.  He said "where your heart is there your treasure is also."  Our "job" here on earth is to "find" God and have a relationship with him on this side of eternity.  Only then will he let you in to his home in heaven?  Otherwise he will say to you, those who have been busy trying to work their own way in...... "I do not know you." 

Oh and the mansions thing......?  You will find my refrence to that in John 14:2.."In my Father's house are many mansions, if it were not so, I would have told you.  I go to prepare a place for you." 

Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top
Years on the net teaches fluency in typoese. Charles said "wonder if he name was" indicating that the place the word "he" occupied was a place for a possessive pronoun. "she" is not a possessive pronoun, so that must not be the typo. That would make the clause read "wonder if she name was." Nope, not that.



Invoking knowledge of typoese, we see that the likely pronoun is not "his." A typo in "his" would be 'hes', maybe, or "hi.' This typo was, in fact, supposed to be the word "her" but inadvertantly the 'r' got left off. Now the phrase reads "wonder if her name was." Very simple mystery that only requires minimal deductive capability solved.
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Thank Ock, even I missed that one. LOL.


KFC

Believe me when I say I had no intentions of getting you and LW into a virtual fight. As much as LW's replies entertain me, it's not something I want between you too. I may not agree with you, but I don't see your articles and replies as the way LW does. When it comes to religion, we'll agree to disagree and as I said in the end we both look for the same results. When it comes to you and LW, it kinda bugs me when you say something to me that kinda sounds like you defending her while at the same time not saying anything to her all while she dislikes you and your articles in an incredible way.
Reply #36 from Stardock Forums Top

it kinda bugs me when you say something to me that kinda sounds like you defending her while at the same time not saying anything to her all while she dislikes you and your articles in an incredible way.
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Ok, got it.  You were making comments like "no wonder LW doesn't like you" adding fuel to the fire.....then you would go off and fight with her trying to pit the two of us or lumping the two of us together.   Now you're saying you don't see my articles and replies the same as LW....so I'm a bit confused......that's why I suggested the cold shower......LOL. 

I mean, if that's the worst thing I ever say to you......you're golden! 

As far as religion, please know for me it's not about religion at all.  It's about having a relationship with Jesus here and now.  Only when you know him here will you be able to spend eternity with him there. 

Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top
and SP sorry I did delete you for bad language. If you'd like to repharase that in a less vulgar way...go for it.
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Heh, I actually don't remember what I said. Oh well, sure it wasn't much important. And again, no worries, I'll remember not to cuss on your blog.

 :CONGRAT: 

Later, ~L
Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
Vergin said an autopsy determined the girl died from diabetic ketoacidosis, an ailment that left her with too little insulin in her body, and she had probably been ill for about 30 days, suffering symptoms like nausea, vomiting, excessive thirst, loss of appetite and weakness.
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"probably" being the operative word here.

Why don't we let the courts do their jobs and not try this family in the press or mock them?

Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm not too sure you should be having any opinions about a child suffering considering whats been going on in you life.
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Charles,

This is a good example of what I'm talking about, actually. You don't know much at all. You've bought into every rumour as fact and tried me without knowing the details.
Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top

So, wait, what about us?

 

Why save seeds of plants but no people?