Cheat Detected

You won a game in less than 5 minutes...

With the bling you have on your post, it looks like you have more than just those 5 games reported to MVL.

Overall games, yes I do have more than 5. But the LAST 5 or 6, you'll see I played all Korath for spores and did tiny galaxies. Well, the first 4 were not red flagged but the last 2 were. Its weird.

But I'm not worried about those, I am simply curious why the last one, actually the last 2 now, are being flagged as cheats. I didnt change anything I know of, so I was wondering if the speed of the game had a minimum, sorta like you can't get a diplo win in under a year.

EDIT: In the orginal post, my wording did make it seem like I had never played a MV game before, but what I meant was: "After reading some posts in our MV(League) threads, I wanted to try playing some games (DIFFERENTLY)   

There is a minimum number of turns a game has to last, anything shorter will cause a cheat flag (12 turns I think?). Back in the DA beta it was certainly possible to do that with spores on a tiny 1v1, but spores were made more expensive to try and prevent that.

Ok, thanks for the prompt answer, I was just curious as to why it flagged them. Apparently, after playing a few in a row like that, I must of got more efficient and finished under that 12 turn minimum.

The only things I know are from the Answers to questions about the Metaverse thread which is pushing two years old now.

Anyway in that thread it mentions "finishing the game in 12 turns or less, even if you used legitimate means to finish the game" among other reasons. I also know that since then code has been added to check for racial abilities above certain maximums.

I would suspect that the 12 turn limit could come into play in a 5 minute game. Although I thought Wyndstar mentioned a 10 turn game and posted a screenshot of the submission with no cheat flag.

However with the above said there have been occurrences of cheat flags in isolated games where there is no doubt that there was no cheating going on but there was no other explanation either. Basically, I’m convinced that cheat flags sometimes happen for no apparent reason and due to no fault by the player involved. However I did think that DA games did at least warn you prior to submission that the game would be flagged as a cheat and you could chose to not submit it.

Okay, dumb question, but related: Is there a metaverse wiki, or how to, or something? I can see what the pieces of bling stand for when I hover over them, but that's about it. Having never done a MV game, I know nothing about how you get them.

I too recall Wyndstar mentioning a 10 turn game, and i immediately thought of the 12 turn limit and wondered if it had been changed. I have had a cheat flag once and there was no reason i could work out why. The game was as normal as any other i had played, so i too think that the MV database that checks games has a loose wire or something.

Until TA's Creativity proc's just right and you devote all your money/time to making them. /shivver

Hmmm, well its possible the last world fell on exactly turn 12 so I didn't get flagged. I played it really quickly - sloppiness in analysis is bound to creep in. Sadly because of my second game of the morning everything for that first game has been auto-saved over so I can't reload it to look.

~ Wyndstar

I reloaded and saw that I did it on turn 9 so it must still be the "12 turn" rule. I actually went back and reloaded it and stretched it out to 22 turns and resubmitted it.

Interesting fact: It lowered my score stretching the game like that, but removed the cheat flag, so thats kinda cool.

That is good. But it actually lowered your score? That's very strange. You'd think that the score would rise slower as the turns go by but to actually go down doesn't really make sense. All score accumulated up to the previous ending turn should stay the same and although the additional score added by continuing would be less and less as each turn goes by.

You must have done something differently in the restart that made the initial 9 turns score differently that caused the overall score to decline. Clearly you must have because previously all planets were conquered by turn 9 and that didn't happen in the new game until turn 22.

It's only because of the very short nature of this game that you'd ever see that. In any normal length game the rate of score increase gets smaller and smaller but it always remains positive.

@Weidbrewer: check out my postMetaverse Medals and What They Mean Answered

That should help on the bling and how to get them.

@Piznit/others: yeah, 12 turn limit. Means that April 1st is the earliest date you can win a game on 'legally'. And this is one of the few times that extra turns will drop your score.