Misguiding?? I think not!

The truth about most of JU’s teen bloggers

from JoeUser Forums
So... I’ve heard a few things. About JU’s teen bloggers. Quite honestly, I’m hurt and upset by the fact that some of the most talented, intelligent people on JU would lump us all together and call us “not true”, as if we are the most horrible people in the world who lie about everything just to get a kick out of it. If you think about it, I don’t see why you would do this to us! We aren’t all bad!

I myself am “true” in the sense that I actually am who I say I am. I don’t create senseless drama. I don’t hurt other people’s feelings intentionally. I am who I say I am. I haven’t changed anything to not offend someone, I haven’t changed who I am for anyone on JU. I AM REAL!

Wonderful bloggers like carebear07, Capt. Cornbread, and Zoologist03 all get shunted by these broad terms and slander. These individuals constantly put out informative, humorous, insightful, and just generally good articles for a JU audience that seems to be less accepting because of a few bad eggs.

Prejudice? Why?

Misguiding? I think not!!! Keep it real, and think about the individual, not the group.

Peace,

Beebes
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
There are many ways to judge people. One common way is by the company they keep and the friends they have.

Hanging out with and supporting someone who creates fictional dramas will tend to get you tarred with the same brush used for them. At the least, many people will read your stuff with a more skeptical eye because you were "involved" somehow, even if only peripherally and by association, with that other person's activities.
I don't claim that this is fair or right, only that it is common and should be expected.

As the saying goes, once bitten, twice shy.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Beebles,

Unfortunately, you were hurt by the fact that one among you has been pretty much established as being consistently deceitful. To add insult to injury, that person created two fictional characters, and this is what has caused people to question whether more were created. I, for one, am sorry your names were bandied about; you're right, you have written many wonderful blogs (sadly, so has the individual in question), and the only reason your names came into it is because of the close association that several in your group have with the individual in question.
Galactic Civilizations IV
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

There's a saying you've probably heard about 'birds of a feather' flocking together?  Unfortunately you've been somewhat judged by the company you've kept in the past.  Not nice, I know, but as citahellion says, common and expected.


 

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I have to agree with what has been said already. Though your article is open and honest, and the message is noted. I will make a special effort to read the blogs of those mentioned above, including yourself.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Uh, oh.....looks like I missed something big here.....could someone give me a clue here?.....am I considered to be fictional or something?...or is Capt. Cornbread having an identity crisis?.....What the heck is going on?

Pretty confused,
~Zoo
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Umm....I'm lost too!! Someone inform me please!!

lost and very confuzzled,
~carebear~
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ok, I think I've figured this out you guys. Brandon told me somone on here posted something about us teens not being truthful. Well just to let you know I know that I myself has been truthful about myself from day one on joeuser. I also know as well, that Capt. Cornbread and Zoologist03 have also been truthful. I know this because i actually do know them. So whoever says we're a bunch of bullcrap liers needs to shut their mouth before I have to come and do it for them. Trust me, it won't be pretty.

~carebear~
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Now carebear, don't get too excited!

We are who we are. That's all that needs to be said. Judging us because of one person is not a good way to go about things.

If no one believes any of us, it's ok, because in reality, if that person can't take what I, you, Zoo, or Capt. says at face value, then that's something they have to work with and deal with.

Turn the other cheek guys.

Peace,

Beebes
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ditto on what everyone else said...and also,

So whoever says we're a bunch of bullcrap liers needs to shut their mouth before I have to come and do it for them. Trust me, it won't be pretty.


More than anyone else, you (should) understand that one of your "friends" hurt a lot of people around here with her "baby dying" story. She had Trina writting heartfelt prayer, Janders offering to send cards, Dharma knitting, everyone was concerned and literally loosing sleep over it. But the baby wasn't real. And yet, you continue to have innane conversations with her on your/her blog as if nothing has happened. No offense, but what about that is confusing? Why wouldn't you think that people would lump you into the same category as her? Might not seem fair to you, but life rarely is!
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

So whoever says we're a bunch of bullcrap liers needs to shut their mouth before I have to come and do it for them. Trust me, it won't be pretty.


Oh, please. 


 

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Emotion is not something to be ashamed of. Carebear has every right to feel the way she does. Being accused of something you didn't do incites rage, horror, sorrow, pain, and many more emotions. I felt most of them myself. I really didn't trust myself to write them in the emotional form that carebear did.

More than anyone else, you (should) understand that one of your "friends" hurt a lot of people around here with her "baby dying" story. She had Trina writting heartfelt prayer, Janders offering to send cards, Dharma knitting, everyone was concerned and literally loosing sleep over it.


This is the problem. People were hurt by someone who is the same age as us. I too fell for the little ruse, and wrote what I thought at the time was a nice, heartfelt prayer for the little child. I also prayed that the girl would not die. And in my heart, I knew that maybe if this child wasn't real, that some other child would feel God's peace and my hope that they would live. That they wouldn't have to cross the streets of heaven without crossing the streets of life first.

I can apologize for my fellow teens. I can turn the other cheek. Please don't assault carebear for her emotion. Her heart is in the right place, even if her words weren't.

To all hurt, to all angered, to all crying, to all happy, to all joyful, remember.
This too shall pass.

Peace,

Beebes
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hey, Beebes....uh, do you by any chance remember what article we were bashed in???....I'd like to read it to get the full effect....(Cornbread can't remember crap....so, you're my only hope)

~Zoo
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's one of carebears. Something about you don't come and visit me anymore. That's where I first experienced the bash.

Peace,

Beebes
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
I said this on carebear's "You want the Truth" article but I'll say it again here:

Actually I'm afraid I started this all with my response to your "you people don't come to see me anymore!" plea where I suggested it might be because of what I had read about some people saying maybe all the teens on JU were fictional.

I was just repeating what I'd heard because I thought it might explain it, but it appears I dropped a gossip bomb. If my comment inspired the rash of hurt reactions amongst our teen contingent I appologize.



uh, do you by any chance remember what article we were bashed in???

. . .

It's one of carebears. ... That's where I first experienced the bash.


That might be where you first saw it, but it is not where it started! To repeat, I wasn't bashing you, I was just repeating "the bash" that I had heard because I thought it was a possible explanation for what carebear was questioning. If you want to know the original "bash-point," where I first heard it, someone probably said it over on Dharma's Ryder expose. Check there.

Okay, I looked, this is what I found there:

Interesting to note, too...carebear and captcornbread ceased blogging within hours of ashlee's mysterious disappearance as well. Sad to say, I think the web is wider than we realized.

If it is all true (and even just what we know is true), I will say this: "Ashlee" is a talented writer. It's just a shame she couldn't use her writing skills to a CONSTRUCTIVE end.


But I've seen the sentiment written on other threads coming from other people. (I just can't recall exactly where.) You have a temporary guilt by association thing going (which is what I was telling carebear). For most people it will blow over in time.

Just don't make any sudden, startling moves. Everyone's a bit jumpy.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
By the way, chasing it around, trying to find out who said what and who said it originally is probably counter productive. (Even though I just did it.) Ultimately it started with Ashlee. I'm surprised you all didn't know what was going on and hadn't heard these sentiments being voiced before. And I again appologize that I was the conduit through who you found out.

It may be for the best that it is all out in the air, though. You probably needed to know some people were thinking these things and that your friend Ashlee had started a wave of suspicion and mistrust. Hopefully this can help us all come together and heal.

Hopefully?
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gene,

It's OK to use my name in connection with the QUESTIONING of certain joeusers. I want to point out, though, I was asking questions, questions that, given the nature of what had just gone on, were worth asking.

Carebear and Beebles, in my mind, you've answered my questions adequately. The fact that neither of you (nor apdelong, zoologist, beebles, etc). "ran and hid" as did the offender, tells me what I was hoping to find out. I apologize for offending you, but I am hoping you understand why I asked the questions I did (after all, Captain was romantically linked with this individual; my questions only came about when it was pointed out that everyone in capt's circle of friends went to school together).
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think the article you're looking for is actually "Something MORE Rotten in the State of Denmark" - which I initially thought was going to be about Princess Mary -- anyway

Link -- it didn't last very long but it got people thinking about whether Ashlee had made up more characters - including Capt Cornbred and Carebear - which would suggest she'd infact created her own love triangle.

The people who've been around more then the last couple of months knew that it wasn't the first time Ashlee had claimed to be something she wasn't - she even apologised for it in her the truth revealed in a new light blog -- people are just a little wary at the moment - People got burned - like you Beebes and people are still reeling a bit.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gene,

It's OK to use my name in connection with the QUESTIONING of certain joeusers.


I wasn't sure it was appropriate. Actually, I was so queasy about it I had come back to cut everything from "what carebear was questioning" to "just don't make any sudden moves," but you had already responded. In retrospect it came off to even me like I was finger pointing, which hadn't been my intent.

Maybe I should still cut it? It serves no positive purpose.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
By the way, chasing it around, trying to find out who said what and who said it originally is probably counter productive.


Sorry - you guys both posted while I was typing and searching for the link
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top

Carebear has every right to feel the way she does. Being accused of something you didn't do incites rage, horror, sorrow, pain, and many more emotions


I am very well aware of that, and you're right.  Statments like that just make you sound...well, childish, and I don't think that you want that.  If she had said 'look, that really pisses me off that people would do that and I'm going to find out who said it and give them what for'...I wouldn't have said 'oh please'.


Sorry if I upset you, carebear.  it wasn't my intention.

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
More than anyone else, you (should) understand that one of your "friends" hurt a lot of people around here with her "baby dying" story. She had Trina writting heartfelt prayer, Janders offering to send cards, Dharma knitting, everyone was concerned and literally loosing sleep over it. But the baby wasn't real. And yet, you continue to have innane conversations with her on your/her blog as if nothing has happened. No offense, but what about that is confusing? Why wouldn't you think that people would lump you into the same category as her? Might not seem fair to you, but life rarely is!


Yes i know. I believed her too. And after I found out that it was a lie it kinda made me very angry too. But I'm just trying to prove that not all of us teens on here are lying about ourselves. Sorry if I sounded like I was going crazy earlier, but it just made me mad that everyone was saying that oh since Ashlee lied all of the teens on ju are liers too.

I can apologize for my fellow teens. I can turn the other cheek. Please don't assault carebear for her emotion. Her heart is in the right place, even if her words weren't.


Awww....thanks Alex!!


Sorry if I upset you, carebear. it wasn't my intention.


It's ok Dharma. I'll forgive you.

And I'm sorry if I sounded childish to anyone on here. It just upset me that people thought we were all liers and such and that we were made up or w/e. So again, I'm sorry.

~carebear~
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ok, I wasn't going to reply or anything because I KNOW I've probably got the largest bit of guilt by association that any of us have. I've already created stress with some people through my recent article that I'm not going to mention because it shouldn't be.

Anyways, I don't seriously think that anyone of us should be considered guilty of being "evil" little teens. I can understand why everyone would be upset but honestly, from the looks of things, zoologist, carebear, and myself didn't even know about the problems.

All I know is that people are hurt so you decide to just blame a whole group of people. I wouldn't recomend doing that for long... History proves that to be a bad choice.

Capt. over and out!
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
All I know is that people are hurt so you decide to just blame a whole group of people. I wouldn't recomend doing that for long... History proves that to be a bad choice.


Yeah, but does anyone have the answer to why they usually blame us? Humm....I'm thinking maybe that question will get answered on my blog i just put out five minutes ago after you got off Capt.

~carebear~