What the hell is wrong with the truth?

We live together. Just the two of us, yet when I ask him if he drank all but three molecules of the orange juice and put it back in the fridge he will adamantly deny any involvement.

If you already knew the answer why ask the question.....it sounds from this post that you watch your boyfriend very closely. Most men object to having every action questioned or feeling like they are being watched all the time. Here is a tip from a male....dont ask too many questions and you wont get told too many lies......

We men lie because you women set us up.

Examples: "does my butt look big?" C'mon now, really. Do you expect us to tell the truth? "Yeah, honey...some kid just stuck a 'wide load' sticker back there"?

Or, how about this one: "Do you think that girl is pretty?" What do you think would happen if you said "Yeah, she fills out in ALL the right places"?


Total honesty is the kiss of death.

Sometimes I'll lie about completely obvious stuff like that because there is no way its someone elses fault. So it almost becomes a game about thinking up the most creative and unlikely course of events that leads up to you not being responsible for it. Deep down we know you know, and we know you know we know you know (etc etc). So admitting we did it seems like a boring and repetive step. Why not at least make the other person laugh. I view those situations as me admitting I was the one responsible, but instead of just admitting to it, telling a rediculous story that nobody could believe. At least thats more interesting. And maybe a way to admit responsibility without actually admitting responsibility.

However, I just use that tactic for little stupid stuff. Like the OJ container situation. I don't resort to that particular technique for serious subjects. The best situation might be to ignore the little occurances of this particular habit of his. Or maybe play along. "Darn theives, they didn't even have the common courtesy to throw the carton away. Could you throw it away for me?"

Its just a game. Of course if he's doing the same thing for serious issues, then you got a problem.

Well I used the OJ situation mostly for laughs but my BF does lie about larger more important things which I'd rather not put in a public forum. Gideon, suprisingly I don't ask my BF the loaded questions that you mentioned because I know the answer and actually really don't care about that. I guess I am just one of the few people who believes in total honesty. If I am asked a question I answer it truthfully. If it is gonna get me in trouble than so be it cause lying just makes it worse.

Bah women lie all the bloody time too. They're just move EVIL when they do it

it doesnt sound like men are the problem, just the men you pick. cause, like you said, women do it too. you just dont happen to date them. so find a GOOD man and then youll come back with a post "why are men so damn great? i mean, of course ladies are great too. but, men, really, why are you so awesome?" and then ill comment on that post "we're awesome cause we throw out the juice box, put down the toilet seat, and give you thousands and thousands of kisses." just remember, and this goes for EVERYONE, all your failed relationships have one thing in common....YOU!

of course i was just kidding with this post so dont eat my face, please. and, yes, im man....im ALL man, lady! (mallrats quote)



good times.

I'm not saying that my man isnt a great guy, its just the petty, stupid lying that drives me up the wall. He works hard, is very attractive and is very loving. I'm just the kind of person that hates lying is all I am saying. I just think that after working 8 hours, coming home and cooking, doing laundry, packing his lunch, and cleaning up after him that I deserve the truth when I ask for it.

yet when I ask him if he drank all but three molecules of the orange juice and put it back in the fridge he will adamantly deny any involvement

The best advice I can give you is pick your battles wisely.  As far as lying from my own experiences, most of the time I lied about things as simple as putting the orange juice back in the fridge to avoid the petty argument that would arise from my confessions.  There are many different reasons for other men but maybe it depends on how the truth is received when it is stated.  Then there is the other extreme.  With my last girlfriend I was brutally honest and it caused me more trouble then if I told a mild lie every once in a while, so it's a double edged sword depending on the situation and people.

See my comment above...the oj scenario was a mild example.

Yeah there is no way I could know every scenario that has happened. I am just saying my personal thoughts because I'm a guy and you might be able to use that as a male opinion.

and your opinion is appreciated