IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT

from JoeUser Forums
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the politically correct crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

In God We Trust is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so! . But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
"we have... our own language "

No you do not, you speak English for idiots. America is like the little child England gave up for adoption, consequently it tries so hard to prove itself.

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Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, Marvin, this is one post where I actually agree with 99% of what you said. But as an American whose ancestors have repeatedly paid the price of freedom, I do not have to, nor will I, leave.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
You had me until the religion bit... And to be honest, I'd be fine with the display of Christian icons in schools... *IF* equal space was given to other faiths on the walls of our classrooms. Our founders were Christians, that is true... but people originally came here to escape religious persecution, to escape the constant battle they faced to defend their beliefs against the establishment. They created a land where all people are given equal voice, equal consideration of their beliefs and equal protections and rights to every aspect of society. These people all pay in the same taxes you and I do, the same money that goes into public schools, they have as much right to go to school in a welcoming environment as any Christian child.

And the bit about cultural diversity ruining our national identity, our culture?!? Our culture is a RESULT of that diversity. I am all for anyone who comes here to learn the language, learn the local customs, what I will not accept is the demand that they forfeit their own personal identities to get along better in what we would like to be a wonderbread world. It is on the backs of people from every corner of the world that we've built this wonderful nation, it is their blood, sweat tears and minds that has given us what we have today. Immigrants built our national infrastructure... scientists hailing from all over the globe gave us the secrets of the atom. This was not achieved by making them mindless drones going along with the crowd, these people came to the table with a different attitude, and different view on things that was a result of the culture they came from.

The goal is to assimilate without sacrificing that which makes each and every one of us unique. Yes, you learn the language and the laws, but you also bring something in return to the USA, you bring views, opinions, traditions and ideas.

Most often, the same Americans I hear toting this line are the same ones who travel abroad and get bent out of shape when everyone around them doesn't speak english, or a McDonalds can't be found nearby. I do NOT ask for people to pull the standard pansy-assed politically correct line, what I do ask is that people are respectful of others opinions, backgrounds and faiths. The day you can openly accept the differences you see in others is the day you should expect them to openly accept yours.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.


That quote doesn't just apply to immigrants, either.  Citizens are welcome to leave their passports when they depart. 


The last time I told someone that of they disliked where this country was going or what it was doing  perhaps they should leave it, I was told that I wasn't being practical and that that line had gotten 'old'. 


I'm going to write a blog about that because the response to this would be slightly long....

Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
I live in Arizona so I hear people telling us we need to learn Spanish all the time. Recently in college, a hispanic professor was pointing out that hispanics are the fastest growing race in America. And because of thise, we should all learn to speak fluent Spanish. All the while I'm sitting there thinking, "Well, why don't they just learn english?" Why do I have to become fluent in a language when the people who speak it as their primary language only last one generation. Usually their children learn to speak fluent english and spanish, and their grand children will just know a few words of spanish. And for the first generation people, as long as they learn it well enough for me to understand them and they me, thats fine.

If I moved to Mexico, I would not expect every Mexican citizen to learn English because I can't speak Spanish.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
One of the things that makes America great, IMO, is that it adapts and adopts traditions brought in by others. How boring this world would be if it never changed ...


JW
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
The last time I told someone that of they disliked where this country was going or what it was doing perhaps they should leave it, I was told that I wasn't being practical and that that line had gotten 'old'.


I won't tell you either. I WILL tell you, though, that freedom of speech is absolutely essential to a republic, and even blithering idiots have the right to speak their mind (as many talk radio shows prove). I would tend to agree with a statement that said "if you're just going to whine and not offer constructive, practical solutions, perhaps another country would be more to your liking", but I think that we need to understand that the flag our soldiers are off defending is the same flag that represents those rights...if we can't defend those rights on the homefront, our soldiers are dying in vain.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
I live in Arizona so I hear people telling us we need to learn Spanish all the time. Recently in college, a hispanic professor was pointing out that hispanics are the fastest growing race in America. And because of thise, we should all learn to speak fluent Spanish. All the while I'm sitting there thinking, "Well, why don't they just learn english?" Why do I have to become fluent in a language when the people who speak it as their primary language only last one generation. Usually their children learn to speak fluent english and spanish, and their grand children will just know a few words of spanish. And for the first generation people, as long as they learn it well enough for me to understand them and they me, thats fine.

If I moved to Mexico, I would not expect every Mexican citizen to learn English because I can't speak Spanish.


The workforce of the mine in which I worked was about 75% hispanic, and about half of those were illegal. We constantly battled mine management who would issue memos and directions in Spanish, and the union steward, who informed only the hispanics about union meetings, etc. This actually endangered the "gringoes" because if an emergency arose, we couldn't count on our coworkers to speak English. I was nearly fired once for "organizing" the gringoes when one of the hispanics (they don't like the gringoes much there; they want the jobs kept open for the illegals that are coming across the border) ran down one of our gringoes with a mucker. I simply informed the other shift to keep their eyes open, as those things tend to have a snowball effect.

One of the hundreds of reasons I'm glad I'm not a miner anymore.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well if I remember correctly... the USA has NO official language... English is not it.. it's just "assumed" to be.....
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

I would tend to agree with a statement that said "if you're just going to whine and not offer constructive, practical solutions, perhaps another country would be more to your liking

The statement I made was in response to a series to whinges, whines, gripes and general complaints about EVERYTHING that America has done and is doing.  I still stand by it. 

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agree with you on that Dharma. Yeah, I may not agree 100% with what my country is doing.. but I will support it when that support is needed, especially when it comes to the lives of men and women from our fighting reserves.

I can stand discussion, and even heated debate... but bitching and moaning doesn't achieve anything but making that person look like an un-educated ass.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
I wish that everybody who says that they'll move to Canada if Bush is re-elected move to Canada anyway. After all, I'm sure they'd agree that the Democrat Party is not that different from the Republican Party and that Kerry is not that different from Bush.