Neocons Advocate Neoconstitution.

theyre not beneath believing theyre above the law

i think this one requires a preface, so please bear with me a moment. contrary to what some of you may believe--or want to believe--i don't hate george bush. hate is an emotion that should be reserved or restricted to people with whom one has a personal connection, and there are only three people who've come close to provoking hatred from me during my adult life. i don't even truly dislike him. i didn't think he was a very competent governor and i'm even less impressed by his performance in the whitehouse. nothing ive seen him do or say has improved my opinion of him since he first became prominent in texas and many of the things he's done as president have diminished it . before you presume to conclude im revealing a goofy liberal, leftie, anti-american character flaw, please consider this: one of bush's major failings is, to my way of thinking, his transparent impersonation of a conservative and his cynical certainty--manifested by that smarmy smirk--that many of those who consider themselves conservatives swallow it hook, line and sinker

cheney is an entirely different story. i do dislike and distrust him. i believe hes greedy, duplicitous and possibly even dangerous. hes the best reason i can think of to keep bush alive and well. ashcroft may not be money-hungry as cheney but hes perhaps even more of a threat because he is a fanatic who clearly has no qualms when it comes to doing something that is the very anathema of american thought: limit the rights codified in our constitution. there are several other neocons in the whitehouse whom i feel deserving of constant scrutiny, chief among them being one elliot abrams.

the subject of this article is the product of at least one, possibly all four of these men--either directly or indirectly as a result of their influence on subordinates. that is solely my opinion.

i will also admit one error in judgment as regards these men. when i learned that bush had 'unsigned' the us from the international criminal court--an entity we'd originally helped to establish, i thought it was just project for a new american century posturing. it never occurred to me that he had much more deliberate reasons for his stand.


which leads me to the real topic of this article.

ashcroft's justice department's office of legal counsel--led by jay s bybee and john c. yoo-- prepared an arguments in 2002, claiming unprecedented broad new presidential authority in the war on terrorism. their work became the basis for a pentagon 'working group' memo regarding the treatment of prisoners that surfaced about 10 days ago.

bybee and yoo asserted the president was empowered to arrest and hold american citizens in military custody if they were considered 'enemy combatants." this was the authority claimed by the administration for detaining jose padilla--the gangbanging alleged dirty bomber-- in exactly that fashion.

briefly summarized, they claimed bush--in his role as commander in chief--and the military were subject neither to federal law or international treaties, to which we are signatories, forbidding torture.

there is some sorta semi quasi precedent for presidents to claim special wartime powers (lincoln suspended habeas corpus and bound those accused of treason over to military courts; roosevelt suspended the civil rights of japanese-americans after pearl harbor).

there is also one MAJOR difference between those actions and the findings of the bybee/yoo group:

both lincoln and roosevelt had the approval of their respective congresses. 10 years agoo a more contemporary congress adopted an anti-torture law in 1994 expressly outlawing americans abroad from inflicting 'severe physical or mental pain' while acting under the authority of the usa.

based on the bybee/yoo work, someone--exactly whom is still unknown--prepared a 56-page "detainee interrogation in the global war on terrorism" memo, dated march 6 2003 (so 2 weeks before the war in iraq began) that surfaced about 10 days ago. altho not officially speaking for or endorsed by bush, this memo states the president and his commanders are NOT subject to that 1994 law in violation of both the spirit and letter of the constitution which clearly states the president's duty to " take care that the laws (of congress) be faithfully executed"

according to the constitution, "congress shall have the power … to declare war and make rules concerning captures on land and water … to define offenses against the law of nations [and] to make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces."

in direct contradiction, the pentagon 'working group" memo claims the commander in chief now occupies a "constitutionally superior position" to congress and has "inherent authority" to prosecute the war with or without the approval of congress.

"congress lacks authority … to set the terms and conditions under which the president may exercise his authority as commander in chief to control the conduct of operations during a war," the memo asserts. "congress may no more regulate the president's ability to detain and interrogate enemy combatants than it may regulate his ability to direct troop movements on the battlefield. accordingly, we would construe [the law] to avoid this difficulty and conclude that it does not apply to the president's detention and interrogation of enemy combatants."

here are some reported reactions by both civilian and military law experts:

"it is an extraordinary claim. it is as broad an assertion of presidential authority as i have ever seen. this is a claim of unlimited executive power. there is no reason to read the commander-in-chief power as trumping the clear power of congress." --michael glennon, a war law expert at tufts university.

"it can't be right. it is just wrong to say the president can do whatever he wants, even if it is against the law."--university of texas law professor douglas laycock.

"it's an argument i have never seen made before — that the commander in chief's war-fighting powers trump the restrictions in the geneva convention. i am having a difficult time even following the logic, that somehow because this is a new type of war that these military commanders' authority has somehow grown larger than the restrictions that we have accepted in the geneva convention."--grant lattin, former us marine corps judge advocate.

former judge advocate general for the navy, retired rear adm. john hutson (now dean of the franklin pierce law center, concord, nh) claims this memo evidences lawyers trying to bend the law rather than stating it fairly and clearly. "that is not the job of people advising the president or the attorney general or the secretary of defense. they have to be right legally, and i think they have an obligation to be right morally. i think they failed on both counts. the argument proves too much. if the president's inherent authority as commander in chief trumps domestic and international law, where is the limit? if every sovereign can ignore the law, then no one is bound by it."

last week, administration officials, including ashcroft, insisted the us did not condone or authorize the use of torture. ashcroft also denied knowing who prepared the memo. ashcroft also refused to provide copies of the bybee/yoo memo to a congressional committee even in the face of a contempt of congress citation. he also claimed the president had not authorized torture even though bush refused to condemn torturing prisoners twice at a g8 press conference last thursday.

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as i said in the preface to this article, this administration is anything but conservative regarding interpretation or application of the constitution. rather than being the sacred document on which this country is based, it is apparently just another obstacle in their path. no matter what happens in guantanamo's xray prison (a facility that castro must envy) the real victim of torture is our constitution.

bybee and yoo have left the government. bush nominated bybee as a judge on the u.s. 9th circuit court of appeals in san francisco, and march 14, 2003, he won confirmation by the senate. yoo, a former clerk to supreme court justice clarence thomas, has returned to his position as a law professor at uc berkely
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Hmmmm... shortly after Bush declares that the "enemy combatants" captured in the Iraq war aren't entitled to protections afforded to prisoners of war by the Geneva Convention (thus implying we're free to treat them however we please), we get the whole Iraqi prison mess. I'm not saying that Bush or anyone in the administration authorized such torture, but they seem to have created the climate and conditions for it to occur.
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Thanks for sharing Kingbee!!! I would never get to find out all this awesome stuff if it weren't for you!!!

It really is appreciated...

BAM!!!
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I'm not saying that Bush or anyone in the administration authorized such torture, but they seem to have created the climate and conditions for it to occur. yup and they couldnt have picked a worse time or place for it either
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cheney is an entirely different story. i do dislike and distrust him. i believe hes greedy, duplicitous and possibly even dangerous. hes the best reason i can think of to keep bush alive and well. ashcroft may not be money-hungry as cheney but hes perhaps even more of a threat because he is a fanatic who clearly has no qualms when it comes to doing something that is the very anathema of american thought: limit the rights codified in our constitution.


Cheney and Ashcroft are the two best reasons for dumping Bush. I can't, in good conscience, vote for Bush with them around. I believe them both to have a serious disregard for the American people and the Constitution.

in direct contradiction, the pentagon 'working group" memo claims the commander in chief now occupies a "constitutionally superior position" to congress and has "inherent authority" to prosecute the war with or without the approval of congress.


Astounding. Ideally, while exercising different roles, none of the three branches should be superior to the others. How they could claim the executive branch has a "constitutionally superior position" and still have any legalistic credibility is beyond me.
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muggaz, please be assured the appreciation is mutual. i really enjoy reading your articles as well my friend.
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Cheney and Ashcroft are the two best reasons for dumping Bush. I can't, in good conscience, vote for Bush with them around. I believe them both to have a serious disregard for the American people and the Constitution i was initially more focused on ashcroft when he was first appointed ag; what attracted my attention to cheney was his appearance on meet the press shortly after 9/11. between the two of em its a wonder we havent all been sold, jailed or both.
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thanks david. several of yours have really impressed me.
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An insightful article!
between the two of em its a wonder we havent all been sold, jailed or both.


Unfortunately, it isn't over yet, and I'll keep watching for secret things being snuck in selling us. They are working on the jailing of us,lol.
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hopefully they wont get the chance.
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both lincoln and roosevelt had the approval of their respective congresses.


I'm pretty sure Lincoln did not have congressional approval for suspending habeus corpus. I think congress was in recess.

this memo states the president and his commanders are NOT subject to that 1994 law


What is your source for this?
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congress subsequently ratified the suspension. whether or not he needed congressional approval is still up in the air accoridng to rehnquist, speaking at norfolk, va may 3, 2000. referring to article 1, section 9: "The question of whether only Congress may suspend it has never been authoritatively answered to this day..." What is your source for this? this is a direct quote from the memo in question as published in the la times june 9, 2004 "congress may no more regulate the president's ability to detain and interrogate enemy combatants than it may regulate his ability to direct troop movements on the battlefield. accordingly, we would construe [the law] to avoid this difficulty and conclude that it does not apply to the president's detention and interrogation of enemy combatants."
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That is troubling. The notion that the president is not bound by the 1994 anti-torture law is the opposite of the sentiment Ashcroft expressed in his testimony to Congress, where he basically said the law was a guideline to the administration.
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don't even truly dislike him. i didn't think he was a very competent governor and i'm even less impressed by his performance in the whitehouse. nothing ive seen him do or say has improved my opinion of him since he first became prominent in texas and many of the things he's done as president have diminished it . before you presume to conclude im revealing a goofy liberal, leftie, anti-american character flaw, please consider this: one of bush's major failings is, to my way of thinking, his transparent impersonation of a conservative and his cynical certainty--manifested by that smarmy smirk--that many of those who consider themselves conservatives swallow it hook, line and sinker


Yes, you do dislike the political animal in question--there's obviously nothing in his character to like. He lacks depth and that should be a requisite for any position of power.

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A prominent Washington psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank recently published a book entitiled "Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President". After researching the president's public and private history, Frank concludes that Bush is a 'paranoid meglomaniac', a 'sadist', and an 'untreated alchoholic'. Frank cites Bush's childhood penchant for torturing small creatures, his 'gloating over state executions', and his pumping his fist gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad. I too have noticed that beneath the folksy persona, Bush possesses a nasty and contemptuous streak that would seem counterproductive in his position. Aides say he is increasingly paranoid of those outside his 'inner circle'.

check out http://www.capitolhillblue.com/ for the sources, and decide for yourself.
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A prominent Washington psychiatrist Dr. Justin Frank recently published a book entitiled "Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President".


I'm not sure diagnosing a person at a distance, without the person's knowledge or any actual contact, is entirely ethical. (That includes when I occasionally do it to people here.)
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Sheesh, this is the kind of thing one would expect to read on Democratic underground.

It's like those right wing nuts in the 90s who thought the government was going to come get them (and actually did in a few cases).  One can assume you guys will get together and either escape to Canada or build a fortified "freedom" compound?

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Brad,
Compare this article to the revisions of the code of patriot act 1 and of 2. Acknowledge that much of 2 has been questioned by legal and concerned citizens. Do a random search and with 'Aschroft' and 'rights' and read volumes. Remember the outrage at searching library materials, tapping phones, and general privacy invasions. This could be the next step. If this happened 10 years ago I would have dismissed it. In light of all the recent and debilitating revisions to the constitution, this is not inconceivable.

It reminds me of how Europe casually dismissed a certain german dictator whose invasions only received a slap on the wrist. Power was taken - not earned. I'm seeing similarity of then and now.

If kingbee would be so kind as to post a few research links to follow up on it would be appreciated. This is something that needs to be followed.


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"in direct contradiction, the pentagon 'working group" memo claims the commander in chief now occupies a "constitutionally superior position" to congress and has "inherent authority" to prosecute the war with or without the approval of congress."

Just noticed this when going through the quotes. I remember reading somewhere on one of the other blogs about how liberals have a hard time accepting checks and balances and how activist liberal judges were being allowed to make law. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a "constitutional superior position" one that negates checks and balances, and does not the president seem to be making law here?
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this is the kind of thing one would expect to read on Democratic underground.


You mean the L.A. Times isn't the print version of Democratic Underground?
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If kingbee would be so kind as to post a few research links to follow up on it would be appreciated

it was a combination of information that can be found here:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-na-torture10jun10,1,6396391.story?coll=la-home-headlines which i checked against http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/10/iraq/main622247.shtml

and

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=EYMKBFRMBOG0MCRBAEOCFEY?type=worldNews&storyID=526133§ion=newscom cnn.com and
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does not the president seem to be making law here? the justice department document is an opinion proferred to the president...sort of a position paper. for the president to act on it, he would have to accept that premise.