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Heaven

Heaven

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Somebody was asking me about Heaven the other day so I thought I'd explain this wonderful place with a scriptural summary.

Both Heaven & Hell are usually ignored, ridiculed or denied by most in our world today. In his book "The Biblical Doctrine of Heaven" Dr. Wilbur Smith lists two quotes regarding this. One is from a theologian and another a Scientist about this subject of heaven.

"It is unwise for Christians to claim any knowledge of either the furniture of Heaven or the temperature of Hell." Dr. Reinhold Niebuhr

"As for the Christian theology, can you imagine anything more appallingly idiotic than the Christian idea of Heaven?" Dr. Alfred Whitehead

The first quote is a common approach from liberal clergyman, that is, most do not believe in a literal Heaven and Hell, but limits them both to the earth. In other words this earth is all the heaven and hell mortal man will ever see. Actually this Bible-denying philosophy does contain truth. From a biblical POV this world is indeed the only Hell the believer will ever experience and the only Heaven the unbeliever will ever know.

Scripture tells us a surprising number of things about our future home. In fact some are surprised to learn there are three heavens mentioned in scripture. The first is called the first heaven and it's the heaven of the clouds and the birds or heaven by day. As beautiful as this is, it's not the eternal home of the redeemed.

The second heaven is the home of the sun, moon and stars and is known as the heaven by night. Neither is this heaven to be confused with the eternal home of the future.

The third heaven is the home of God. That's where his Throne is. Jesus once told Nicodemus a man could not even see this heaven, let alone, enter it unless he was born again. When Jesus taught his disciples to pray he said, "Our Father which art in heaven" this being the abode of God. This beautiful and blessed city is called the New Jerusalem and is the center of God's presence as well as the permanent home for all believers throughout eternity. All the prophets both old and new longed and looked forward to residing in this celestial city.

So how big is it? According to Revelation 21 and using present day measurements this city would be roughly 1,400 miles long, high and wide. It would be like reaching from New York City to Denver and from Canada to Florida. If you multiply these dimensions to get square footage (1,400 x 1,400 x 1,400) you get a total cubic mileage of 2 billion, 700 million. This is about 15 times the combined surface of the entire earth that we have now, including both land and water.

The shape of this new city could be in the shape of a perfect cube or maybe a pyramid as some have surmised. The bible definitely pictures this New Jerusalem as floating in space (imagine that) and should not be thought of as a satellite city to the earth but rather the earth as a satellite planet encircling this New Jerusalem.

The foundation of this city is made up of 12 layers; each layer being inlaid with a different precious gem. Not only will this be inlaid with these gems but each foundational layer carries the name of one of the twelve Apostles in the New Testament.

The walls of this City are 216 feet high and are made of jasper and is for design and beauty. I read that in comparison to size, a 216 foot wall around a 1,400 mile high city would be like a one-inch curb around the Empire State building.

Much is joked about concerning heaven and usually the pearly gates are mentioned. Well there are going to be 12 gates to this city. Three gates will be on each side. On each gate is the name of one of the tribes of Israel. Each gate is composed of a beautiful solid white pearl. So there you go. There is a bit of truth in all them jokes....lol.

The main street of this city is composed of pure transparant gold. Think about the cost of gold. Can you imagine how costly this city is?

In this glorious City we'll see a throne, the river of life, and the tree of life.

So who gets to stay in this City? Who will be the inhabitants? The scripture actually lists them. We see the holy Angels, the 24 elders, the church, saved Israel, all the redeemed who have ever lived, and of course God himself.

Almost as interesting as to what is in heaven is what is absent. There will be no more sea, no more tears, death, and pain. There will be no more insecurity and no more night. There will be no more sin, no more sickness and no more curse because there will be no more Satan. There will be no more thirst, no more hunger, no more heat, no more condemnation and no more corruption.

I like to ask people sometime if they have their reservation made for such a beautiful place. While it won't be crowded because it is going to be so large, we still have to have that reservation in hand before we enter the pearly gates.

"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband." Rev 21:2

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Do me a favor....get your bible and read Isaiah 14 and notice the same mentality of Satan as you showed me here. Specifically in v12-23. Notice the "I wills"
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Ok...I read it and fail to see how it applies to what I wrote. If it's evil for me to be able to imagine a more compassionate way of doling out judgment, then evil I be.

And I'll happily go to hell for trying to imagine your god as greater than you imagine him. Hopefully he'll at least be flattered as he sends me to my eternal doom.

of course! That's really what it comes down to isn't it? Your will not God's will.
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If you believe in free will, then it is necessary that it be the only will you have. If there's a God, and he wills something, I wouldn't ever be so stupid as to think I could change or stop it. But it doesn't mean "don't think" or "don't question" to me. For me (opinion) not thinking because the thoughts I should have are already laid out and not questioning because there is no question unanswered that has any value is an affront to any deity that gave me a brain. If I was given a brain by some intelligent designer, I am going to go out on a big limb and assume it wasn't to keep my skull from collapsing.
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Funny such insight and wisdom could come from South Park.

 

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Ok...I read it and fail to see how it applies to what I wrote.
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hey, well at least you read it.  Now meditate a bit on it.  Think about it. 

Now think about this.  There are many names for God as he has many characteristics.  The name that is used here in this scripture is Elyon and means "the strongest; strong one."  Basically this is saying that Satan is coveting God's strength.  Another name for God is "El Shaddai" and means "breasted one."  It basically speaks to the maternal comfort that God gives to his people.  Satan is not interested in being the El Shaddai but the Elyon God.  His pride demands nothing less. 

And I'll happily go to hell
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well you may say that now and sound big Ock but you won't be laughing on the other side of eternity.  There's nothing funny about Hell.  Nothing.  In fact, I think I'll do a summary of hell like  I did here on heaven and it willl be just for you.  I mean I know you want to be informed to the fullest so how about you know exactly what you're in for?  I know. I know.  You don't believe in hell right?  

If I was given a brain by some intelligent designer, I am going to go out on a big limb and assume it wasn't to keep my skull from collapsing.
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then why not use it as it was intended........:SURPRISED:

 

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no I'm not trying to bait you. Why would you say that? Do you really have an answer (be truthful) or are you just saying it's figurative? If so, what does it stand for? I think it's a fair question don't you? You should be able to stand behind your statements confidently if you assert them confidently.
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Because sometimes you do. That's all, it felt like a bait.

I don't have an answer, I haven't been there, I haven't spent years studying different scriptures trying to figure it out. It's not really important to me what everything is made of in Heaven. I just know it'll be awesome. :D I do, however, think that it is figurative, because, like Isaiah, John uses a lot of figurative language and metaphors in the Book of Revelation. How do you tell what's a metaphor and what is literal?

I guess we'll find out sooner or later!
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If diamonds became as abundant as salt today.....the lack of value would only be in our human monetary system....their beauty would remain.
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What if you're not turned on by shiny rocks? I mean they're fun and all...but true beauty for me lies in the natural world...organic stuff, living stuff, things that change and move and thrive. Could we get log cabins in the woods if we prefer rather than a shiny city?

~Zoo
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then why not use it as it was intended...
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Heh...you're right. I think I'll go throw some bread to the ducks.

Ciao, bella
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no I'm not trying to bait you. Why would you say that? Do you really have an answer (be truthful) or are you just saying it's figurative? If so, what does it stand for? I think it's a fair question don't you? You should be able to stand behind your statements confidently if you assert them confidently.
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Because I've been baited before, and that's what it felt like.

No, I don't know what heaven is going to be like. I've not been there, and I haven't spent years studying scripture trying to figure it out. All I know is that I want to go there, and that it's going to be perfect. :D

I do think it's figurative because John, like Isaiah before him, uses a lot of metaphors and figurative language to describe what he's seeing. Woman vs. Dragon, anyone? At any rate, I just don't know how to tell what is figurative and what is literal, particularly with Revelation.

Meh, I guess we'll find out sooner or later, won't we? ;)
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Sorry about the repeat, I didn't see the second page and thought I hadn't posted that. My bad. :D
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Because I've been baited before, and that's what it felt like.
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well I don't bait, at least I don't think so....lol.  Maybe I do.  I don't know.  But I do ask lots of questions sometimes because I generally want to know why people believe the way they do and partly because sometimes I think people just make up statements they have picked up here and there and really have nothing substantial to back up their statments with.  You just said you thought it was figurative and didn't follow thru with anything.  That's why I asked.

All I know is that I want to go there, and that it's going to be perfect
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and we are in complete agreement here Cedarbird. 

At any rate, I just don't know how to tell what is figurative and what is literal, particularly with Revelation.
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Well I don't think Revelation is to be interpreted any differently than the rest of scripture.  Scripture is filled with both symbolic and literal language.  Sometimes people don't make sense when they try to make something symbolic in one place yet in another take it as literal.  The basic rule is when it makes sense to be taken literal then it should be.  If it's obvious a symbolic meaning is to be had, then it will be obvious that it stands for something.  When we say it's raining cats and dogs.....it's obvious it's not to be taken literally right?  So then we know it's symbolic and then we go about to find what it means.  In the case of the jewels it's literal in other parts of scripture and it makes sense to also see this as literal.  Why not?  Can God's heavenly foundation of this new city NOT be done up in jewels? 

Meh, I guess we'll find out sooner or later, won't we?
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Yes, I'd take sooner myself.  The sooner the better. 

Sorry about the repeat, I didn't see the second page and thought I hadn't posted that. My bad
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I think we're all making mistakes on JU today.  I haven't figured this all out either.