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Christmas With No 'X'

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Christmas With No 'X'

Imagine the alaphabet with no 'X'

from JoeUser Forums
The English alphabet consist of 26 ordered letters and none without significance, both vowels and consonants, when put together with rhyme and reason they make up syllables and words that allow us on jU to banter back and forth. What I would like for you to consider is our alphabet with no ‘X’ . The 24th letter of the English alphabet, a consonant may not seem like a very important letter but a very necessary part of our communication. Consider if it were removed from our alphabet?

There would be no eXperiments. No Thomas Edison. No Bill Nye the Science Guy. What if there were no eXperimentation of thoughts or ideas, either I would think like ‘Little Whip’ or she would think like me! Worse than this we would all think like Aeryck? eek…… Imagine a world where we were forbidden to consider and eXperience new and different thoughts, or even the liberty to voice them, jU would not be what it is today?

We could never have eXtras. No eXtra ice cream (no pun intended your majesty) and pie. No eXtra pay for working over and above the expected time… no snooze buttons on the alarm clock, because there no time for eXtra sleep in the morning; not even 10 minutes? eek!

We would never be able to ‘X‘ -out anything. If something was written or said, it would be permanent. We could not go back and take it back and say I am sorry. Scary, for most all of us have said things in the past and would give anything is we could take back.
No ‘X’ marks the spot….. Life without the all important ‘X’.

For some the day could pass and we could avoid the ‘X’….. but consider how important it is for the illiterate….. it is a mark of the ‘X', made instead of a signature by a person unable to write. It becomes ones legal identity. What is the seeming symbol of uneducated shame becomes the very being of the individual on paper.

The greatest and saddest of all is there would be no Christmas… It became common place for many in society to tag on the ‘X’ to-mas. Then it became very un-cool to even mention the word Christmas so now it is only appropriate to say “Happy Holidays”. So what is the Holiday we are celebrating? The birth of Christ? But some will say, we are not celebrating the birth of Christ but Santa Claus bringing gifts to good girls and boys. I don’t believe in this Jesus. How ridiculous would it be to take your Santa Claus out of your picture? Or maybe it should be X-claus or maybe santa-X….. oh, I forgot the ’X’ has been taken out, it is no longer available. Imagine a world with no ‘X’, it never belonged in Christmas and now we can’t put it there because it has been taken out of the alphabet?

My point is this, I do not do a real good job of adhering to political correctness, as a preacher of the gospel, I believe in Jesus Christ and Christmas is a celebration of His birth…. He ‘Christ’ belongs in Christmas not the ‘X‘. I also believe the ‘X’ needs to stay right where it is at and hope no one ever takes it out of the alphabet.

Christ is the reason for the season so I would like to wish you all ’both friends and foes’ a very Merry Christmas.

God Bless
hamartano
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Reply #101 from JoeUser Forums Top

Celebrating the birth of a child is one thing I was referring to birthdays (beginning with 1st birthday).


A-D,

In all this time did you think of doing a little searching of your own ? Try Google 'Birthday party in the Bible'.

I found an answer to your intial question: 'Can anyone show in scripture where anyone is celebrating their birthday?'

Yes. Pharoah and King Herod.

Have you read any of Dr. Alfred Edersheim's writings. He did some fine work on the cultures of the people of the Bible.

Interesting point, if you start reading from Genesis, you will notice that Moses was interested in recording the ages of people, it seemed to be customary to do so.

Aeryck.
Reply #102 from JoeUser Forums Top
Here is some additional tabakee for your pipe....

What does the Bible say against celebrating birthdays? NOTHING!
Is it pagan to celebrate a birthday? NO!
Has anyone proven birthday celebrations began with pagans? NO!
Will you go to hell for celebrating your birthday? NO!
Is it a sin to celebrate your New Birth in Christ on its annual day? NO!

Is it a lie to teach the Bible is against celebrating birthdays? YES!
Is it a lie that birthdays began within paganism? YES!
Did people in the Bible count their birthdays? YES!
Did Jews celebrate the 12th birthday of boys and girls? YES! Bar Mitzvah and Bat Mitzvah
Did the parents of Jesus take him on his 12th birthday to Jerusalem and celebrate his Bar Mitzvah? YES!
Did Levites on their 30th birthday celebrate becoming a priest? YES!

Aeryck.
Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #104 from JoeUser Forums Top
Did the parents of Jesus take him on his 12th birthday to Jerusalem and celebrate his Bar Mitzvah? YES!
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Where is this found in Scripture?
Reply #105 from JoeUser Forums Top

Where is this found in Scripture?


Hi Lula,

Whoops, my bad. There is no mention of Jesus having a barmitzvah in Jerusalem, in fact that probably happened the day after his thirteenth birthday.

Aeryck.
Reply #106 from JoeUser Forums Top
Whoops, my bad. There is no mention of Jesus having a barmitzvah in Jerusalem, in fact that probably happened the day after his thirteenth birthday.
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Do you research before you write?
Reply #107 from JoeUser Forums Top
Did the parents of Jesus take him on his 12th birthday to Jerusalem and celebrate his Bar Mitzvah? YES!
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Where is this found in Scripture?
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Whoops, my bad. There is no mention of Jesus having a barmitzvah in Jerusalem, in fact that probably happened the day after his thirteenth birthday.
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St.John 21:25 might fit the bill.

We don't know much about Jesus' childhood. I do find St. Luke 2:51 exceedingly interesting.

After the Blessed Virgin and Joseph found Him in the Temple, "and He went down with them and came to Nazareth and was obedient to them; and His mother kept all these things in her heart."

Here the Gospel sums up Jesus' life in Nazareth in three words, He was "obedient to them".
Reply #108 from JoeUser Forums Top

Do you research before you write?


Most definitely, but I still find that research is never ending. Today, one might think one has a great answer to a question, and tommorrow one might find a better answer and so on. I used to have a lot of questions but then I began to ask God about things that were bothering me, instead of asking forums all the time. Your question about the birthdays was interesting and it led to a whole gamut of ideas that took quite a bit of reading. It is clear that birthdays were celebrated by Pharoah and Herod, and the Jehovah's Witnesses use this to insist that birthdays are evil etc. I normally try to answer the question as simply as possible and often that is not enough. Jesus is waiting for your questions.

Love,
Aeryck.
Reply #109 from JoeUser Forums Top

St.John 21:25 might fit the bill.


I agree. Seeing this is the last sentence of John's Gospel, it is one that was foremost in my mind.


Here the Gospel sums up Jesus' life in Nazareth in three words, He was "obedient to them".


Jesus was about his Father's business and so aught we to be perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect. (Phil. 2:5-11)

Aeryck.
Reply #110 from JoeUser Forums Top
Celebrating the birth of a child is one thing I was referring to birthdays (beginning with 1st birthday).


I am having trouble understanding the fault of celebrating a birthday, because it may or may not be documented in the Bible. The fact that it may or may not have pagan origin? To him that esteemeth something is wrong to him it is wrong. It almost seems like the allowance of the forbidding is nothing more than legalism.

It appears that God established a birthday of sorts for His people when He led them out of bondage....

"This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.... and this day shall be unto you a memorial: and ye shall keep it a feast to the Lord throughout your generations: ye shall keep it a feast by ordinance for ever." Exodus 12: 2 & 14

This deliverance from Egypt was comparable to a new birth the were delivered from the bondage of the enemy and God chose them as His people, not because they were mighty or righteous, but He set His love upon them and called them His children. Every year they were to celebrate this new birth of sorts and to remember where God had brought them from.

hamartano
Reply #111 from JoeUser Forums Top
Most definitely, but I still find that research is never ending.
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In case you didn't notice I asked you a question that yes I already knew the answer but to get you and others to research. Your response was ill received and unwarranted. It's no wonder people treat you poorly. You want respect you gotta stop treating people like they are idiots.

Reply #112 from JoeUser Forums Top
In case you didn't notice I asked you a question that yes I already knew the answer but to get you and others to research.


Help me understand Adventure -Dude the problems with birthday. Did you see my comments above? Why birthdays?

hamartano
Reply #113 from JoeUser Forums Top

In case you didn't notice I asked you a question that yes I already knew the answer but to get you and others to research.


So you say. Loaded questions are devisive and remind me of the carving style of the Scribes and Pharisees, who tried to entrap the Lord. Shame on you.


Your response was ill received and unwarranted.


Well, if that is all you were trying to establish, then perhaps you should start your own threads. Generally it is polite to ask a question and then express what you know instead of thinking that your answer is the only correct one. (It seems all you are interested in is sowing seeds of discord, O Wormwood.)


It's no wonder people treat you poorly.


Now there is an old English expression. One thing you will come to discover is that you cannot please all of the people all of the time and neither should one be so puffed up to think that you can.


You want respect you gotta stop treating people like they are idiots.


Until you actually begin to own your questions, by presenting what you know, you will simply be viewed as another 'Great Pretender'.

Aeryck.
Reply #114 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hamartano,
I don't think you will get much out of A-D, then again it would be nice to read something more than one-liner-wisecracks from our veritable scholar of silence.

Aeryck.
Reply #115 from JoeUser Forums Top

The head of John the Baptist was the first birthday present ever recorded in the Bible.


Mat 14:6 But when Herod's birthday was kept, the daughter of Herodias danced before them, and pleased Herod.
Mat 14:7 Whereupon he promised with an oath to give her whatsoever she would ask.
Mat 14:8 And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, Give me here John Baptist's head in a charger.
Mat 14:9 And the king was sorry: nevertheless for the oath's sake, and them which sat with him at meat, he commanded it to be given her.
Mat 14:10 And he sent, and beheaded John in the prison.
Mat 14:11 And his head was brought in a charger, and given to the damsel: and she brought it to her mother.

Please explain how you came to that conclusion ?

Aeryck.
Reply #116 from JoeUser Forums Top
Um, she came to that conclusion because that's what it says, Aeryck - in the part you just posted. You're so dense that it makes me giggle.

On the larger topic: You can't do it if the Bible doesn't say it, and you can't do it if Jesus didn't do it and have it recorded in his perfect, infallible book.

In other words: None of you retards can ever take a shit again, because it doesn't talk about Jesus taking a shit in the perfect, infallible Bible.
Reply #117 from JoeUser Forums Top
In other words: None of you retards can ever take a shit again, because it doesn't talk about Jesus taking a shit in the perfect, infallible Bible.


SanChonino brings up the train of thought I was headed, not the relieving the body of excrement, but the liability of the believer, just because it is 'not' clearly stated in the bible as being right or wrong, how should the believer handle it?

For instance we are talking about Christmas the birth of Jesus Christ. Is celebration of ones birthday 'unbiblical'? I realize there are different doctrinal positions on this, but I am wondering why it is considered 'non-biblical' because it is not clearly mentioned in the bible that "we should celebrate annually the birth of an individual"?

It would be kind of like saying that a Christian is forbidden to use a Norelco electric shaver, because we have no evidence of anyone in the bible doing it and the Norelco shaver (have, just using in a hypothetical setting) was invented by a pagan. And to purchase a Norelco shaver supports the pagans that work for Norelco thereby prospering them financially this Christmas Season. And to top it all off they are not even going to say 'Merry Christams' (again used hypothetically) to the participants of the Christmas Holiday when they shop this Christmas HolyDay........ but they will say thank you for buying this Norelco electric shaver while you are celebrating your Saviour's Birthday; even-though there is no evidence that He was born on this day.

hamartano
Reply #118 from JoeUser Forums Top
On the larger topic: You can't do it if the Bible doesn't say it, and you can't do it if Jesus didn't do it and have it recorded in his perfect, infallible book.


That is not what I am saying SanChonino..... that was why I posed the question- what is biblically wrong with celebrating one birthday?

hamartano
Reply #119 from JoeUser Forums Top
That is not what I am saying SanChonino..... that was why I posed the question- what is biblically wrong with celebrating one birthday?
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I wasn't saying you were, I'm saying the mindset of the infallibility of the Bible is laughable.
Reply #120 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm saying the mindset of the infallibility of the Bible is laughable.


What do you mean when you say 'it is fallible'?

.H.
Reply #121 from JoeUser Forums Top
What do you mean when you say 'it is fallible'?
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I mean the idea that it is perfect, without blemish, mistake, or issue.

Laughable, man. Just laughable.
Reply #122 from JoeUser Forums Top
SanChochino,

You mean this part....?

Mat 14:6 But when Herod's birthday was kept, the daughter of Herodias danced before them, and pleased Herod.
Mat 14:7 Whereupon he promised with an oath to give her whatsoever she would ask.
Mat 14:8 And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, Give me here John Baptist's head in a charger.
Mat 14:9 And the king was sorry: nevertheless for the oath's sake, and them which sat with him at meat, he commanded it to be given her.
Mat 14:10 And he sent, and beheaded John in the prison.
Mat 14:11 And his head was brought in a charger, and given to the damsel: and she brought it to her mother.

And this conclusion.....?

The head of John the Baptist was the first birthday present ever recorded in the Bible. (little_whip)

And this is what you said:

Um, she came to that conclusion because that's what it says, Aeryck - in the part you just posted. You're so dense that it makes me giggle.


Normally folks get presents on their birthdays, right ? Is there something that I am missing ?

Aeryck.
Reply #123 from JoeUser Forums Top
I mean the idea that it is perfect, without blemish, mistake, or issue.


Aeryck bings up a good point SanChonino.... give us an example of it's error, mistake or blemish?

.H.
Reply #124 from JoeUser Forums Top

I mean the idea that it is perfect, without blemish, mistake, or issue.


Ummm...SanChochino,

Which other historical source are you comparing it with, to arrive at such a conclusion ?

Aeryck.
Reply #125 from JoeUser Forums Top
SanChonino, I have studied this word out some 28 years and the only error I have found is where compilers (men who compiled) who put together their version of the study bibles have erred. These errors were in reference to notes, comments and references to other text.

I must admit that I have run across portions of His word that I don't understand (that does not warrant error only ignorance on my part) and even sometimes I misunderstand only to come back some time later and say (laugh) "boy it is amazing..... the Word of God it is".

Error? Help me see what you are talking about.

.H.