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I'm Amazed How Easily We Accept a Police State!

I'm Amazed How Easily We Accept a Police State!

On another forum I frequent, the question was asked about fingerprinting children as a form of ID to speed up the lunch line.

I’m going to leave you with your thoughts on that, while I take a few steps back.

When I was in high school, we read the standard dystopian novels. Orwell’s “1984” and Huxleys “Brave New World” were required reading, especially among the G/T set, which is where I spent much of my academic career. It was years ago when Ritalin and Prozac became almost mandatory for anyone deviating from the norm, that the soma of Huxley’s world came to mind. Take away their emotions and you stand a good chance of controlling the masses.

But now, we live in a world where if you DON’T agree to fingerprinting, warrantless searches (in the form of home visits from social workers and schoolteachers), RFID, and mandatory doctor visits, you are automatically suspect. You are accused of having something to hide by a public that is somehow unable to comprehend the concept of having something to PROTECT.

Our government was established under the precept that we NOT live under strict government control. Now we live in a nation where many are quick to insist that we DO. Somehow, if the government controls things, we think that everything will be allright.

I have never understood the irrational logic of those who trust a government that is unable to maintain its roads and bridges to manage their personal life. When the government fails to maintain a bridge in , the bridge collapses. The casualties are tragic, to be sure, but not as tragic as when the government fails a whole generation of people entrusted to its care.

I have long contended that we are about to suffer a consequences of a nation that has “lived under the levee” for too long. The consequences may come later rather than sooner, but is that a legacy we want to give future generations.

We’ve lived too long under the government we deserve. It’s time to insist on the government our GRANDCHILDREN deserve.

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Reply #26 Top
Oh CRAP! ID tags are the mark of the beast!!!



no the little chips that they put in your skin and can track from space. the first test subjects were cats and dogs. thus the meaning of the mark of the beast.


by the way the united nations bar code number for humans begin with 666
Reply #27 Top
It's only the Mark of the Beast if it leads to the qualifications in the Book of Revelation. Until then, it's just a bunch of mindless sheep who demand the government protect them from the responsibilities and risks that naturally come with freedom.
Reply #28 Top
no the little chips that they put in your skin and can track from space. the first test subjects were cats and dogs. thus the meaning of the mark of the beast.


Using your definition Danielost then the collared tags (ie dog tags) used for identifying your pet would be considered the mark of the Beast.

test subjects are cats and dogs. Now being widely used in military since WWII.

Again by your definition (because I asked you to differentiate how this indicates it is the 'Mark of the Beast') you said....

it is called the mark of the beast, because they started using them on dogs and cats.





You said it couldn't be barcodes and yet you say?

by the way the united nations bar code number for humans begin with 666


besides an RFID is just a barcode with a radio frequency.
Reply #29 Top
besides an RFID is just a barcode with a radio frequency.


sorry didn't know what an rfid was. and i was refering to the computer chips that they use to id dogs and cats not the tags.


and of course it isn't a bad thing now but it will be so why take a chance.
Reply #30 Top
sorry didn't know what an rfid was. and i was refering to the computer chips that they use to id dogs and cats not the tags.


RFID is the computer chip they are talking about.

RFID (Radio Frequency IDentification tags)
Reply #31 Top
and of course it isn't a bad thing now but it will be so why take a chance.


After showing you don't know much about what you are talking about, what information do you have to suggest we should heed your 'warning?'
Reply #33 Top
Why fingerprints? I don't get it. I don't even get why they want to take fingerprints 'in case your child goes missing.'


Because its not about fingerprinting for food. Its about conditioning entire generations into accepting the process of being biometrically audited. The same people who say its harmless are the same people who think they are winning a game of chess right up to the very moment their opponent says "Check Mate".

Couple these kinds of programs with things like the Total Information Awareness Act and Orwell looks more like a prophet than a writer of fiction.
Reply #34 Top
little chips that they put in your skin


Oh, to hell with those things...no way am I getting tagged and released.

~Zoo
Reply #35 Top

Because its not about fingerprinting for food. Its about conditioning entire generations into accepting the process of being biometrically audited. The same people who say its harmless are the same people who think they are winning a game of chess right up to the very moment their opponent says "Check Mate".


Tiddler, the logic of WHY fingerprints in the name of efficiency raises too much of a flag. Like I mentioned last I knew it wasn't the lunch line attendant that showed to be the bottleneck.

Reply #36 Top
Oh, to hell with those things...no way am I getting tagged and released.

~Zoo


Oh Zoo, they'll keep fishing till you take the bait.

Muhahahahaha!
Reply #37 Top
After showing you don't know much about what you are talking about, what information do you have to suggest we should heed your 'warning?'


Because its not about fingerprinting for food. Its about conditioning entire generations into accepting the process of being biometrically audited.


Reply #38 Top
After showing you don't know much about what you are talking about, what information do you have to suggest we should heed your 'warning?'


Because its not about fingerprinting for food. Its about conditioning entire generations into accepting the process of being biometrically audited.



Now you quote biometrics???

What does biometrics have to do with RFID computer chips being implanted in children and the Mark of the Beast?
Reply #39 Top
it is called conditioning as the USA did with social security numbers
Reply #40 Top
computer chips




add a gps unit to it and big brother can track you no matter where you are. say goodbye to the only real god given right. free will.
Reply #41 Top
Oh, to hell with those things...no way am I getting tagged and released.


YOu already are. You forgot to wear your tinfoil hat, so we transported it into your head. here the beeping?
Reply #42 Top
it is called conditioning as the USA did with social security numbers


So now SS numbers are the Mark of the Beast?




add a gps unit to it and big brother can track you no matter where you are. say goodbye to the only real god given right. free will.


Already in cell phones. Are cell phones the mark of the Beast too?

Oh man so many markings of the Beast I'm losing track!
Reply #43 Top
So now SS numbers are the Mark of the Beast?


no but when it first started it was voluntary. now it is mandatory
Reply #44 Top
Already in cell phones. Are cell phones the mark of the Beast too?


no these also are not mandatory and you don't have to have a cell phone.
Reply #45 Top
once the chip is in it stays in.

Reply #46 Top
no but when it first started it was voluntary. now it is mandatory


So in other words all you have are speculations to pull from and nothing that supports your 'theory' that RFIDs (the computer chips you were talking about) are the future Mark of the Beast?
Reply #47 Top
once the chip is in it stays in.


pocket knife and it's removed?
Reply #48 Top
you won't be able to buy food without it.
Reply #49 Top
Because its not about fingerprinting for food. Its about conditioning entire generations into accepting the process of being biometrically audited. The same people who say its harmless are the same people who think they are winning a game of chess right up to the very moment their opponent says "Check Mate".


Well said, tiddler!
Reply #50 Top
you won't be able to buy food without it.


This is the same thing that people ranted about with bar codes. Still nothing that suggest this is any different than before.

There are too many 2nd and 3rd world countries out there that do not have the capabilities to follow through such an implementation.