MSRP of $7,499, if you want to talk semantics. 25% higher than your quoted price.

But that's ok, it's only money. The government will bail you out if you screw up, right?



You didn't get any Pell grants or other financial aid? I'm finding that unlikely, ziggy!



No, here, let me again condescend to the one with the teaching degree:

Subbing sucks. I'm sure of that. However, subbing is how you build up work experience and a reputation as a teacher. It is how you establish yourself.

As an IT tech, I am making well under market for my certifications. But I'm gaining experience and a reputation because I'm working IN THE FIELD where I'm trained. Five years of truck driving won't make you a better teacher. Five years of subbing will.

As for minimum wage, the page was updated on July 2007. Since the minimum wage increase did not take effect until AUGUST, it's not posted. I assure you, however, that the minimum now complies with federal standards.

The fact that you aren't recipients of a multimillion dollar lawsuit tells me a lot, ziggy. The fact that the TEACHER'S UNION won't back you tells me more!



BY YOU AND MARCIE!

Honestly, that IS expensive. 7500 American dollars are like 5500 or so Euros. I would not be able to afford that.

I only buy things that I can afford without signing loan agreements (although I do overuse my credit cards a bit, never been late with payments ever though, but being more responsible with my credit cards is something I must look into), but the most expensive things I have bought with my income so far were:

Computers (up to 2500 euros)
Summer study tour (several thousands euros above 2000 euros)
College (a few thousands euros a year, back in the day)
Flight tickets (few hundred euros a year)

Buying something that costs more than 5000 euros would not really enter my mind.

My bad. It's *only* a $7,500 bike. Cheap enough that we can put all the bells and whistles on to bring it up over $10G. Nothing but the best for Ziggy and Marcie!

Lol still using Sabrinas bells and whistles line? I thought I shot that down a while ago. Considering my bike does not have the features it does today from the factory, and I got a non-abs version. I have added a couple hundred dollars worth of add ons. I bet that adds up to a few grand in y our book though:

MSRP of $7,499, if you want to talk semantics. 25% higher than your quoted price.But that's ok, it's only money. The government will bail you out if you screw up, right?

Lol...you mean you actually pay MSRP? wow.

You didn't get any Pell grants or other financial aid? I'm finding that unlikely, ziggy!

Nope. Mom made too much. Couldn't qualify for anything. Right now I have about 9 grand in loans through Nelnet to pay off.

The fact that you aren't recipients of a multimillion dollar lawsuit tells me a lot, ziggy. The fact that the TEACHER'S UNION won't back you tells me more!

lol lawsuits? Let me get my waders...
There was no union....just an association so they dont have much power of anything. And like I have said in teh past, we did have their lawyers look at it, and while we had a good case and some points of high concern...the end result was that the school district could let me go without reason because I was a probationary teacher.
Another interesting thing is that, you and Sabrina have been so surprised I havent been sued yet. Could it be that maybe you are completely and totally wrong in your assumptions as to who I am? lol.....naaaaaaaw. Never! Not even a chance!

BY YOU AND MARCIE!

By what we have chosen to write on here. Ever wonder why we are so selective in our writing and not giving out detail? Hmm.

OK, so we're assuming 0% financing for the length of the note? HMMM...

And based on what you've written, I'm QUITE positive you aren't paying for the "stripped down" model. You guys would NEVER slum it like that!



No, I don't buy new vehicles. I let idiots like you pay the depreciation and buy the vehicles that get returned when the dealer repossesses them.

Gid's rule is NEVER pay retail!



Not surprised at you not having BEEN sued, surprised you HAVEN'T sued.

No, I'm pretty sure of your motives. I'm equally sure any competent lawyer would laugh you out of his/her office!



Right. So portraying yourselves in the WORST POSSIBLE LIGHT was all part of some grand strategy?

Or could it be you've been at the lead paint chips again?

At any rate, I actually DO hope this job works out for you. I'm just flabbergasted with your "I have two degrees, I want the state to pay for a third" mentality, Ziggy.

There is no reason that the state should retrain you. You haven't been injured in any way that impairs you from doing your job, you have a degree in a field where there IS demand (whether you want to acknowledge it or not!), and you have not one, but TWO degrees. Workforce was meant to help people who do not HAVE job skills.

Want to know what I'd do in your shoes? (Of course, you don't!). I'd sell the bike and anything else that you don't need, find a one bedroom place as cheap as I could, work days as a sub and weekends delivering pizza until better job opportunities pan out. Then when you've established yourself and HAVE the money, buy all the toys you want.

What I dislike about you, ziggy, is your character. I've struggled to get everything I have, and you and Marcie expect every little toy your heart desires, but you don't want to work for it. You have great lives, great opportunities, yet all you can see fit to do is whine about what you don't have. Your focus is entirely on THINGS, and it oozes into everything you write. This is entirely contradictory to what your faith teaches.

At any rate, I actually DO hope this job works out for you.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

What I dislike about you, ziggy, is your character.

lol...the problem here is that you dont know anything about me outside of thisblog . You cannot deny that.

And again, the CDL program is not a degree course.

Actually, though, I know plenty about you FROM this blog.

I know you are an unapologetic spendthrift.

I know that you believe you are ALWAYS right, and that your intellect is superior to everyone else's.

I know you refuse to admit you're wrong.

I know that, for whatever reason, you do not have a history of holding jobs for long periods of time.

Everyone of these things you have shown us repeatedly through your behaviour here.

Actually, though, I know plenty about you FROM this blog.

And that is all you know.

I know you are an unapologetic spendthrift.

I don't need to apologize for the choices I make in my life. Especially to you. Just because I make what seem to you to be poor choices, that doesnt mean they are the worst. There's a whole crap load of choices I could have made that would have been worse than the ones I have made.

At the time I / we have bought the things we bought, our income was not uncertain. We made the choices we felt were right at the time.

I know that you believe you are ALWAYS right, and that your intellect is superior to everyone else's.

This line of crap has been brought up before. I never imply that I am right if I don't believe I am. Ive also said before Im not the brightest person in the world, nor do I wish to be. But when it comes to things I have some experience and knowledge in...I usually know what Im talking about.

know you refuse to admit you're wrong.

Like what? I have no problem admitting when Im wrong. Your version of what is the truth and mine...doesnt make me 'wrong.'...Especially if you don't agree with me or the choices I make.

I know that, for whatever reason, you do not have a history of holding jobs for long periods of time.

I know you seem to miss the obvious too because this has been brought up many a time. Ive been out of college for a tad over three years. Went to Vegas to gain experience. Was scheduled to return. Resigned when my wife was hired in MN and we wanted to go back there. After a year in MN, I wanted to get back into the classroom, and since my position was cut due to funding (out of my hands, not that you would accept that), we were hired out in WY.

Now heres the kicker. After a great evaluation in the winter, and no concerns whatsoever...the same person who gave me that glowing evaluation and said I was going a good job....came down on me like wildfire because of things he never brought up to me as a concern before. The advice that I followed was from people I was told to ask and seek advice from...which turned out to bite me in the end. Even during this, as this took place, I got another evalutation (which was a bit lower because of his concerns....but still good), I was not renewed. I asked why, and was refused an answer.

Sure, take what little you have from what I have selectively written and continue to pass judgement on something you can not accept that you fully do not understand. You simply do not know the entire story because I havent posted it, nor will I. Now the FACT is, that Im sitting here, telling you that you don't know the whole story, because I haven't written it...yet you knowingly pass judgement on what you THINK happened, from the little that I have written. That is the truth.

Yet, it seems to be OK to you to assume that you know everything about my situation....

you believe you are ALWAYS right, and that your intellect is superior to everyone else's

...despite the fact that you know I have not written everything that could be written.

Instead of accusing me of believing Im always right...why don't you use that same line on yourself and try to realize that no, you don't have the full story...yet you think you do.

whatever, ziggy.

Your entire response proves my point on your belief in your own omniscience.

Your entire response proves my point on your belief in your own omniscience.

Right, I guess you are right. My knowing more about my job situation does make me seem to boast of omniscience, at least in regards to my job history and performance.

Yet you...undoubtedly probably deny that same omniscience because while Im telling you about my work history and performance, you disregard it...because your version about my history is somehow more accurate than my own.

Wrong, Ziggy. I have repeatedly reminded people I'm arrogant. In fact, one of my key acronyms is IMEABO -- "In my extremely arrogant, biased opinion". There's nothing wrong with being arrogant and opinionated...UNTIL you somehow feel that you're not, or until you solicit advice then castigate people for giving it.

I put no blame on anyone in regards to your employment history, ziggy, but for whatever reason, you've never had employment stability to support the standard of living you've insisted on. Sure, a four bedroom doublewide may "look nice", but it carries a hefty price tag. You could have literally saved THOUSANDS without that decision. Sure a newer GoldWing looks sharp, but if you were in it for the gas savings, you could have gotten something much cheaper that was just as effective if not more so. You got it because you felt you deserve those toys.

To even TALK about another bike, even if it IS "just a scooter" (a $7500 scooter!)is premature when you're writing requests on how to FEED YOUR DAMN SELVES ON YOUR BUDGET!

One other point: If it were solely me making these observations, ziggy, I'd be more inclined to question my judgment. But the fact is (and you KNOW this), it's NOT just me. EVERYONE except you and Marcie see these things. But it never occurs to you that we might POSSIBLY have some insight.

By the way, the above is why you two are generally poorly regarded as well.

You're right, we only know you through online interaction. But if you are even REMOTELY as insufferably arrogant and obstinate in real life, it's not hard to figure out why you're not achieving what you want in life.

Still ain't sold the mobile home, have you?

but for whatever reason, you've never had employment stability to support the standard of living you've insisted on. Sure, a four bedroom doublewide may "look nice", but it carries a hefty price tag. You could have literally saved THOUSANDS without that decision. Sure a newer GoldWing looks sharp, but if you were in it for the gas savings, you could have gotten something much cheaper that was just as effective if not more so. You got it because you felt you deserve those toys.

Right, but I asked you before what my options where and you never replied. Here are the options we had at the time.
1. An apartment. Extremely hard to find as there are few apartments in town...and not to many homes for rent that we saw.
2. A house. Could have bought one...but as you and others have pointed out...not a good choice if we don't know how long we are going to be there.
3. The trailer. Not a good choice, but our own and something we can own. Resale? Who knows. I do know that the realtor wants us to get our papers in because someone who looked at it last month is looking at it again and wants us to get it listed. The best choice? No...but not too many other choices were available for us to get moved into right away.

I also never felt that I deserved anything. I never typed that. So you are assuming what you just do not know. I have typed the reasons for the bike in the past which you seem to have ignored. I didn't want a Harley because those are overpriced pieces of crap. The GW is a much better quality bike, has more power, better braking, a lower center of gravity than my old bike plus more. I wanted something more reliable than my old bike and something with more power to get us moving and stopping. There are no other larger bikes designed for touring than the HD's and the GW. I did look for used 1500's, but was unable to find anything for the price I wanted. I also wanted something with a warranty so that any repairs would be covered.

My talk about getting my wife a scooter is just that, talk. I never said I was buying her one now, nor anywhere in the near future.

Unfortunately, you will keep bringing the past up, so this is like and endless argument. Whats the point if you keep bringing up the past. Kind of hard to move on.

One other point: If it were solely me making these observations, ziggy, I'd be more inclined to question my judgment. But the fact is (and you KNOW this), it's NOT just me. EVERYONE except you and Marcie see these things. But it never occurs to you that we might POSSIBLY have some insight.By the way, the above is why you two are generally poorly regarded as well.You're right, we only know you through online interaction. But if you are even REMOTELY as insufferably arrogant and obstinate in real life, it's not hard to figure out why you're not achieving what you want in life.Still ain't sold the mobile home, have you?

Yeah, you, Sabrina (who has never seen eye to eye with me on anything and when we do disagree on something, she brings up arguments from 2-3 years ago) and 3 other people amount to everyone.

No, we 'ain't' sold the mobile home...haven't listed it yet. Kinda hard to tell it through a realtor when you don't have it listed with that realtor. We did have a few people that tried to buy it for the price we are asking, but they couldn't get financing.

You mean, this was the only trailer for sale anywhere within a 50 mile radius? And that there were NO rentals within 50 miles? A four bedroom trailer was the only size you could get?

You ACKNOWLEDGED that you could get an apartment, but that they were hard to find. It WAS an option, just not an easy one. The fact is, there are a lot of choices you'll find in life where your best option isn't the most attractive.

As I've said MANY times before, I bring up the past ONLY because it shows a pattern of behaviour on your part, ziggy. The past IS relevant, because it is reasonable to assume that if a person has behaved the same way repeatedly in similar circumstances over time, the trend will continue. Or did you not ever learn that in college?

I find it ironic that your degree is in education, which tracks performance over time, yet you demand that we do not apply the same standards to you that you would routinely apply to your students.



No, you said you were "eyeing" one, which usually means that a purchase is being considered, even if it is not imminent.

No, if you go back, you'll find a whole lot more. It's not just three people, ziggy. Let me toss out a few more that have addressed you: Brad, Karma, SanChonino, Jythier, BlueDev, Baker (back in the day). Want me to go on? Or will you concede that it is WELL more than 3 other people, with virtually NOONE taking your side?

And then there are the ones who remain silent because they've seen the way you treat people who dare to disagree with you.

You mean, this was the only trailer for sale anywhere within a 50 mile radius? And that there were NO rentals within 50 miles? A four bedroom trailer was the only size you could get?

When you live in the middle of nowhere, there isn't anything nearby. The town was 8sq miles. We didn't see any rentals that would fit our need and we were willing to take most places. We liked this particular park because it was well maintained and they had high requirements for their residents as far as upkeep of homes and property. There were a few much older trailers in parts of town that we just did not want to live in. Snobby? Maybe. I just would rather not live in a part of town that I don't feel safe or comfortable living in.
As far as our park we went to...there were singles and double wides available. We liked how the double was much roomier and felt more homely to us, among other things. At the time, it was the only double wide they had there...actually moved in before they were finished with it.

You ACKNOWLEDGED that you could get an apartment, but that they were hard to find. It WAS an option, just not an easy one. The fact is, there are a lot of choices you'll find in life where your best option isn't the most attractive.

They were hard to find. The prices for many of them were MORE than we paid for our trailer. I also wasn't willing to get rid of half the things we owned just in order to live in a place for a year or two.

As I've said MANY times before, I bring up the past ONLY because it shows a pattern of behaviour on your part, ziggy. The past IS relevant, because it is reasonable to assume that if a person has behaved the same way repeatedly in similar circumstances over time, the trend will continue. Or did you not ever learn that in college?

But the problem is, you keep bringing it up..over and over and over again. Instead of getting over it, you just bring it up all the time. The thing is that I learned from the past. I'm not sorry for the things I have done...because they are choices I made and I learned from them. I also move on. Sure, Ive made poor choices. But I also know what to do in the future.

I find it ironic that your degree is in education, which tracks performance over time, yet you demand that we do not apply the same standards to you that you would routinely apply to your students.

Education does track performance over time as well as determining areas that need improvement. I know the areas I need to improve on.
Education does not just adhere to academics only. I expect my students to grow academically, but also inwardly as well. I challenge them to ask questions, seek out the answers and to learn how things work. Since I have graduated...I have bought things, some good choices some poor (like you havent ever made mistakes). I have also paid quite a few things off, created a detailed budget which tracks our finances and I have grown in many more ways than I could have imagined.

No, you said you were "eyeing" one, which usually means that a purchase is being considered, even if it is not imminent.

Darn, and I thought I knew what I was saying when I was typing that. Thanks for telling me what I really meant.

Let me toss out a few more that have addressed you: Brad, Karma, SanChonino, Jythier, BlueDev, Baker (back in the day). Want me to go on? Or will you concede that it is WELL more than 3 other people, with virtually NOONE taking your side?

Right, and not one of those has experience in my field which is where the arguments were.
Brad hardly ever posts on here, and I think only once recently.
Karma, she and I have never agreed on anything, mainly because she agreed with everything Sabrina said. She too hardly posts on here anymore.
SanChonino posted on here about 3 times a month ago.
Jythier I think is at least able to understand my side of the issue. At least did.
Don't remember BlueDev coming on here much at all.
Baker....lol what happened to him?
I guess, that yes you are right...those six people are much more than the three I wrote earlier. Out of the umpteen thousand (whatever the number of JUsers)...I have maybe 10 people...maybe 20 that don't agree with me. And those six are the ones that posted on here, and of those...Jythier is the only one who regularly comments.

And then there are the ones who remain silent because they've seen the way you treat people who dare to disagree with you.

lol, hey...at least Im not writing a blog totally going off on someone that disagrees with me, then refuse to let them reply when the attacked try to reply to the attacks. That's a great way to 'treat' people. And...hmm, how do you count invisible people?

And that little bit of exposure was enough to make me realize that discourse with you would be an exercise in futility.

Just so you know - I still think you're a tool, and you have no idea how to live within your means.

Oh, so you didn't learn definitions of words.

I'm sorry, I was under the impression you were a college graduate.



BECAUSE YOU'VE SHOWN A PATTERN OF THIS KIND OF SHIT!

Notice that Sabrina and I are pretty close to the only ones who even BOTHER with you anymore, ziggy. That should tell you BUNDLES, if you weren't such a hard headed DOLT!

I honestly can't understand why any of you give a flying fuck.

Sabrina herself wrote the following:

I intend to stay off the forums altogether for a while, so don't be mad at me if I normally comment on your articles but seem to be ignoring you. Or be mad if you must, I'll get over it. I'll do the Friday Fives, (maybe) and probably not much else. I need a break from this place, from this pollution of thought, this endless demonstration of pig-ignorance and haughty judgement.

Not to mention all of this fucking drivel, too:

Sometimes You Just Gotta Let Go when caring becomes a pain in the ass By little-whip Posted Friday, August 17, 2007 on little whip's lair Discussion: Blogging I have recently cut ties with another blogger here, and will no longer be following their life story or interacting with them. Now, this blogger would have you believe that it's because they don't 'bow down' and follow my unsolicited advice (advice one doesn't agree with is always 'unsolicited', btw, even if offered in response to an article that's plainly asking 'what do you think i should do?') but that's not the case. No, there are other reasons, like how that advice is recieved (whether followed or not) that piss me off. Many people blog for validation purposes, ie: "This is what I think, lets see if anyone agrees with me" sort of stuff, and this blogger has been the queen of such queries. Anyone suggesting that Blogger may not be making the best choices is met with thinly veiled (and sometimes open) hostility, and any options presented are shut down in half the than the time it took to express them. Case in point, said blogger (and spouse) has been asserting the ridiculous all week, that there are absolutely NO rental properties in the area they wish to live, none, zero, zilch, nada, so Blogger was looking for someone else to validate Blogger's desire to purchase another home. When i refused to offer such validation, and in fact, disagreed vehemently with the idea, I was told that if I 'couldn't handle it' I was free not to comment on their blog anymore. When I decided to take advantage of the offer to 'go away' I was then accused of trying to start some sort of 'pity party' for myself. WTF? The day I need pity for scratching a blog off my 'must read' list is the day I'll quit coming here. In fact, the accusation is as absurd as blogger trying to convince their readers that they just HAD to buy another home because by golly, there were NO RENTALS in town. Well guess what, blogger DID find a rental after all. There WERE suitable places to rent, blogger just hadn't found one yet, after two whole weeks of searching. Hmm, many readers had been suggesting that blogger keep looking, that blogger not give up, that blogger not give in to the desire to purchase another home so soon...and those readers, including myself, were right. We KNEW that two weeks worth of looking wasn't long enough to justify giving up and taking on another back-breaking debt in the form of a high-interest trailer mortgage, but see, that wisdom, that good advice, was not what blogger wanted in the first place. What blogger wanted was support for the bad decision they WANTED to make. Blogger will never, ever get that from me, so when I was invited to leave, I took Blogger up on the offer. End of story. (no pity needed.) Sometimes, we just have to look at the overall enjoyment we're getting (or not getting) out of a relationship and make a decision as to whether or not the time and effort put into it is worth the return. Over the past couple of years, I have interacted with Blogger quite a bit. We started out rocky, but things really went to hell when Blogger began suffering from a mental illness that could be plainly observed in their writing, by everyone BUT Blogger. Blogger was very sick, and Blogger was the last one to realize it. I became more than a little concerned due to the fact that Blogger works with other people's children. Blogger seemed ready to snap under the strain, and for that reason I began to put a lot of MY emotional energy into chasing Blogger around with a mirror, trying to get this person to see themself , to see what I saw, to see what everyone else saw, and understand what was happening to them. Blogger soon began to hate me for it, but my efforts eventually paid off. Blogger sought help, and when Blogger returned to their senses, they actually thanked me for the wake-up call. Ever since then, I've taken an interest in Blogger's life, followed their blog, and offered assistance whenever I could, from professional mortgage advice (advice that thousands of homeowners --and potential homeowners--have paid me good money to hear in the past) to simple 'hugs' when tragedy and death struck close to home. But no more. When I get the reaction I mentioned above in response to the considerable effort I've put into this blog-lationship, I had to ask myself if it was worth it, if I even cared enough to continue this interaction. The simple answer is no. Not only have I had about enough of these sorts of reactions (it's far from the first time, although Blogger has toned the method down a bit, having in the past preferred the temper-tantrum followed by the slamming door, ie: 'You guys are right, I'm wrong, I'm stupid, you win, so there, I'm leaving, happy now?' sort of response, but I've had MORE than enough of Blogger's Spouse. Blogger's Spouse has always made my skin crawl, there is something so inherently creepy about Spouse that it really, honestly disturbs me to think that Spouse also worked with children. Obviously, Spouse's employers found Spouse as creepy as I have, for everywhere Spouse has set foot to work with children, Spouse has NOT been invited back to work with them the following year. Spouse is a disgusting, self-centered, conceited, irresponsible, excuse-making, know-nothing LOSER who is utterly convinced of their own superiority, and twice as convinced that they know it ALL. Spouse has, in the past, asserted that even those dying of terminal illness be forced to work until they draw their last breath, because everyone who collects Social Security is just faking anyway. Spouse told us all how EASY it is to qualify for such benefits, in spite of never experiencing the misfortune of needing to apply for them theirself. (Yeah, that's why over 90% of these claims are denied upon first application, and require the services of an attorney to collect. It's easy. Anyone can get it. Uh-huh.) Spouse has, in the past, informed the world that the parents of the children Spouse worked with were total idiots and had no idea how to properly raise their brats, despite the fact that Spouse has never raised a child of their own. Spouse has been to COLLEGE to learn how children should be treated, and therefore Spouse's wisdom in the matter is not to be questioned by lowly, uneducated, ignorant parents. How dare they? Spouse has argued on these forums that collective punishment is an appropriate disciplinary technique for very young children, that punishing an entire class for the misbehavior of one child is just hunky-dorey, because the rest of the class should keep the miscreant in line FOR Spouse, so Spouse can spend hours blogging while collecting a paycheck. (thanks, taxpayers!) I could go on and on, but Spouse isn't worth it. Marrying Spouse was the BIGGEST mistake Blogger has ever made, and there were lots of us on JU who begged Blogger not to do it, telling Blogger they were worthy of better, but of course, Blogger was looking for validation and nothing else. To my knowledge, not a single poster here was willing to offer this validation, Spouse is THAT despicable and we all see it. Too bad Blogger doesn't. But Blogger insisted, so we gritted our teeth and hoped for the best. Of course, it isn't happening for them, Spouse can't even hold a job for more than a year, and Spouse's behavior has hurt Blogger's career too, Spouse is SO grotesque, arrogant, and obnoxious that their last employer fired the BOTH of them due to Spouse's bullshit. But it's not Spouses fault, you see. Nothing ever is. It's just that no one else recognizes how superior Spouse is! This inability to hold a job for longer than a single season has caused Blogger and Spouse to move cross-country pretty much every year, incurring the stress and considerable expense of moving each time, yet Spouse continues to insist they make huge payments on a very expensive toy that's only used on occasion. Poor Blogger? Nah. Blogger assures us that Blogger knows best, and that the accumulated wisdom and knowledge which Blogger could avail themselves of here is just so much hot air. And if I can't 'deal with that' then I can just skedaddle. When I tried to do just that, I was accused of trying to inspire some sort of pity party for myself, which is not only bizarre, but arrogant beyond belief. I lost my temper momentarily and called Blogger a 'bitch.' For that, I apologize. But you can keep your pity, Blogger. I'm in no need of it nor was I seeking any. But you just aren't worth the time it takes to type out responses anymore, you neither appreciate the effort nor respond with any grace. Save your pity for yourself, and your equally pathetic Spouse. As the years go by, I become more and more convinced that you deserve each other. And don't bother to respond here, Blogger. Same to you, Spouse. I am no longer interested in dialogue with either one of you, and your responses will be deleted. Save it for your own blog, where I won't have it thrust in front of my face, because I honestly do not have enough energy to give a shit anymore. Goodbye, and good luck with your life. You're going to need it.

So...since we all know that is in relation to Ziggy and myself, I have to wonder why the retard keeps on posting here? Or anywhere for that matter. I guess a "break" constitutes several seconds? And "goodbye" consists of contiually harassing us here on this thread as well as others when she's "no longer interested in dialogue with either one of us" and our responses will be deleted.

I wish I could convince Ryan that he should return the favor, because it's plain bullshit.

And as for you and your "I hold Chiristians to higher standards" bullshit, Gideon....you must mean everyone but you. You're so holier-than-thou. I thank GOD that Chrisitans we associate with in real life act NOTHING like you. Because if they did, I might just turn Buddhist. You're an absolute hypocrite. So God bless you, Gideon, all you fucking want.

We don't want you to BOTHER. Do you not GET that?

I also find it exceedingly hilarious that a NON-Christian has the class and the character to answer with at least some respect versus your crap.

I'm one of the few who has the guts to tell you the TRUTH, Marcie.

You know, I worry about you teaching grade school kids. They need a teacher who is more mature than they are!

Marcie, in that one moment you lost any respect I had remaining for you. While I disagree with Ziggy, he was at least having an intelligent conversation.

Look at your comments and see how irrational they are, Marcie. Get some professional help. Seriously.

I know you are an unapologetic spendthrift. I know that you believe you are ALWAYS right, and that your intellect is superior to everyone else's. I know you refuse to admit you're wrong. I know that, for whatever reason, you do not have a history of holding jobs for long periods of time.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Many of these statements sound EXACTLY like you. YOu are NEVER wrong, Gideon. EVER. And when you are, there is of course a logical reason and you would never admit it or apologize for your mistake.

And how many jobs have YOU held over the past four years? I'd be very I think I remember three or four, but you'd never admit it. It's the EXACT same number as Ryan has. But....but...but....of course, you're a super-Christian and you have several logical reasons reasons and explainations for all of this.

It's all a bunch of crap. I don't know why Ryan continues to bother with you two. You're obviously better than us in innumerable ways. We should bow our 400 lb. asses down to you, and believe me, so you can puff out your chests with pride, we do.