If Hillary wins, should I expect to hear b**tch alot?

perhaps it should be cleaned up a little with "witch" [?]

"We're all equal!"
"Quit acting white!"

If we were all equal, there wouldn't be such a thing as 'acting white' or 'acting black.' Therefore, Jesse Jackson MUST think that there is a disparity. And therefore, I submit that Jesse Jackson is racist, and that he thinks white people are better suited for office. After all, running for office is a 'white' kind of thing to do, isn't it? Blacks should be stickin' it to da man, not becoming da man.

I heard about the Jesse thing...anyway, I just noticed that I should've used one asterisk instead of two, but my edit button is nowhere to be found. Thanks for the responses so far, steven, jyth, and lw. I'll be back later to respond and to read some more. I gotta go now!

Interesting question, considering, as LW stated, that Bush gets called so many names and those who somewhat follow Bush and his administration are called Bushies or Bushmen and even (like the article here states) haters.

The fact that she wants to spend 110 billion a year on healthcare that obligates me to have insurance (even when I don't want it or can't afford it) and to pay for mine and everyone else's in this country (probably including illegal immigrants) thru higher taxes does not sit well with me and kinda makes me wanna go to her face and call her a B*tch. I don't wanna have to wait 10 months to see a specialist if my needs require a visit to a specialist ASAP. I would rather pay cash, which would be worse cause now I pay for insurance, pay for visit cash and pay for everyone else's insurance as well.

No thank you. You can keep the B*tch and her ideas.

She gets referred to as a bitch because she is.  Not because she's powerful, not because she's some brilliant, or want-to-be brilliant politician, etc.  It's because she's a power hungry, conniving, pandering political opportunist bitch.

You can keep the B*tch and her ideas.

Charles, do you call the other candidates that you disagree with their proposals demeaning and ugly names or do you just save that for the female candidate?

It's because she's a power hungry, conniving, pandering political opportunist bitch.

Terp, I honestly thought you were better than that.  All of these adjectives would describe ANY political candidate that you don't support except for bitch. 

I am with you on this Rose.  It's just offensive to women.  The same leadership qualities that are admired in powerful men are condemned in powerful women.  If she is elected president, hopefully people will have more respect for the office of President and not call such demeaning names to a sitting President. 

I honestly cannot say that I "like" Hilary Clinton but it has always aggravated me to hear her bad-mouthed.  It really says more about the person hurling the insult than the one being insulted.

As far as the name-calling of Bush, I will admit that I have seen him called a liar or stupid but I haven't seen him called an a*hole or a d*ck. 

I will go with the philosophy that a bitch is a woman Being In Total Control of Herself which is in itself offensive to many.

Maybe we should ask Isiah Thomas if it is ok for white guys to call her that, but not black guys?????

You're not looking far then. Good grief! Are you talking about George W?



That might apply to some women who get called the word but in Hillary's case I think the general usage fits. There isn't anything genuine about that woman. She will say whatever she needs to say to win over whomever she's speaking to at the moment. I'm all for a woman for president, just not that one.

Terp, I honestly thought you were better than that. All of these adjectives would describe ANY political candidate that you don't support except for bitch.

You might have to forgive me then for calling people like Bill Clinton slime-ball scum-bag bastards, or for calling Nancy Pelosi some fairly evil things, or for calling some other individuals some nasty things as well -- including some words that I've tossed around at people like Jesse Helms, and others over on the 'right' side of the aisle too.

I call 'em like I see 'em.  I don't call Hillary a C U Next Tuesday (though I may think she's one of those proceeded by the word STUPID to complete the entire description/label) because, well, bitch is about the nicest of the terms I could slam her way.  Same for Nancy Pelosi really.  Same for dirty Harry Reid.  Worse for the despicable scum Murtha.

It's gone around before in long discussions here where some have gotten highly indignant at the use of terms like 'bitch' to describe females in society.  I'm sorry, but until I see another term that is equally as appropriate for the individual, I'll stick with callin' 'em like I see 'em.

Someone wrote:

I will go with the philosophy that a bitch is a woman Being In Total Control of Herself which is in itself offensive to many.

To which JillUser replied:

That might apply to some women who get called the word but in Hillary's case I think the general usage fits. There isn't anything genuine about that woman. She will say whatever she needs to say to win over whomever she's speaking to at the moment. I'm all for a woman for president, just not that one.

Exactly.

So when will Mrs. JillUser be running so I can actually vote for her?

Seriously, I vote for the *best* candidate that I see running.  In the last two elections the best candidate was most certainly not the Democrat offering.

In the coming election, begrudgingly, I may have to consider Hillary the best candidate, but it would take one heck of a loser running as her opponent to really convince me of that being the case.

I wish that there was a good --insert any minority type/category you want here-- running.  Someone that truly deserved my vote, or at least didn't leave me feeling that I was accepting the least of the evils.

Honestly, the Republican side is seriously underwhelming when it comes to minority candidates running for offices at just about every level.  But... on the other hand, the Democrat side tends to run some candidates that have platforms and views that are so out of touch with reality that they really don't deserve *any* of the votes they will inevitably take.  If people actually listened to the candidates, researched them, and found out what the candidates really stood for, many people would *run* away from liberal side as quickly as they could, but instead they are drawn in with empty promises, or promises that can only be filled by having the government pay Robbing Hood, taking money from one side and handing it to the other.

Show me a candidate that is worthy, and I might not be so harsh.

I had to read this twice to make sure I read it right.  I don't even know where to start referencing the names people have called Bush. 

Point them to These links - Dabe

wisefawn

ditto

Dr. Guy - I didn't see in any of those links a statement that a person stated a direct insult of GWB - as in "GWB is an (fill in the blank) a*hole etc. Did I miss it?



That is your opinion not fact.



Well if name calling is the best you can do, sling away. I think it is much more impressive if you can write an intelligent comment about something substantative than just hurling insults.



See yet again this is in the eye of the beholder. I think there are quality candidates in both parties. Unfortunately the candidates that I admire most likely will not win the nomination.

You sure did! read their articles! I could have sent you to du.org, dailykos, moveon.org, The Puffington Host, or Michael Moore's site, but figured if you saw it here, you would see that it is not hard to find those names.

Those are just 2 of the most notorious of the former (they were banned for other reasons) Joe Users, and this is not as bad as the list above.

Or for the Google impaired

Uh, Loca - all of it is Opinion, including yours of Bush.

She was one when she was "First Lady" and I don't see any difference currently. I am glad that as a civilian I can say whatever I want about whomever is elected. Until Nov 1 I can't say much about the current administration, so I can only make fun of the other suck ups and criminals trying to get their party's nominations.

The fact that when her husband was in office, we weren't allowed to make any comments, jokes or statements about the completely amoral behavior in the Whitehouse under threat of courts martial or Non-Judicial punishment. (Even though the regulation only applies to Commissioned Officers) Since she has surrounded herself with the same folks, with the same Machiavellian attitudes, I figure she is an amoral power hungry B. The other words that could be used are much, much, worse.

A couple of examples to support my opinion, not so very long ago she tried to use some phony Southern accent (they refer to it now as Kentucky Fried Hillary) when speaking to an African American crowd. And she claimed to have babysat for immigrant workers in her neighborhood even though there were none in the area of Illinois where she grew up (park ridge)to appeal to immigrants.

But like you said, it's just my opinion.

Thanks but that's not a job I aspire to. I will leave it up to (hopefully) people who actually know how to run a country. I barely know how to run a household

You haven't been looking for it, then.

I think Hillary's attack machine has shown the character of the woman. So far EVERY campaign she has waged has engaged HEAVILY in negative campaigning. While candidates put distance between themselves and negative campaign, it's hard to ignore when it follows them everywhere they go.

I have no problem calling her e B*tch. NOT because she's a woman, but because of plans like MANDATED health care that would lead us further into a nanny state and further erode personal liberties the Constitution were designed to protect. Also because in her political career, I have seen NOTHING positive about the woman that would incline me to vote for her.

I don't believe a person's gender should subject them to harsher treatment, but I don't believe it should subject them to more lenient treatment either.

The most obvious reason has been totally missed. It's simply a fun word to use. Short, direct, and just plain fun.

The justifications for using this don't matter to me...I still don't like when a woman is referred to as such.

I know that for some women, the term is empowering, but not to me.

...I still don't like when a woman is referred to as such.

Me neither! But everyone still use it, including me! Sorry Rose!

I'm not into name-calling of any kind...but mental pictures..well maybe.

If Hillary wins, put a crown on her head and swear her in as the first American "tax and spend" queen. It'll be payback time and all her toadies will be bowing before her in the court of pay-back.

Charles, do you call the other candidates that you disagree with their proposals demeaning and ugly names or do you just save that for the female candidate?

Let's see, well, maybe idiots, morons and fags; but I'm not sure there is a male term that equals the B word that sounds just as cool, as Mason put it. Nice try though Loca, making me sound like I go around calling all women b*tches. Far from it, I have much respect for women, I value and treasure all of them. But I can't help it when there are a few here and there who just lain deserve to have the B word added to their birth certificate, especially those who get pregnant over and over from several different men just because they too stupid to not have sex or use condom or take birth control pills or injections.

In Hillary's case, she's a hypocrite. If you wanna believe that she does not go around pandering to the current group of people in front of her, I don't care. I'm not the one living a blind life. I don't have to hear it from reporters, read in in the papers or even see it on blogs, I heard it straight from the horses mouth how she would say one thing in one Campaign speech and the say the complete opposite on another. I actually remember pointing that out in an article here before.

I'll say this, I'm wondering if your problem is more because you are a woman that it bothers you as oppose to because calling any woman a b*tch is not a nice thing to say. Kinda how Jesse Jackson said to Barack to stop acting white not because he was not being himself but because he was black.

Bitch has had a lot of its insulting meaning stripped away from it. It's had a bit of a clean up over recent years. It's actually possible to take pride in being a bitch if the t-shirts and bumper stickers are to be believed.

So maybe Hillary's actually getting an easy ride by just being called a bitch - after all, it basically just means she's unfeminine and aggressive and therefore a worthy counterpart to her competitors.

Certainly it's better than being called a dick-nosed knob jockey a la Mr Bush.