Do you know a foreign language?

Something I somewhat regret from my youth is never learning a foreign language.

When I started High School I got a late start on the enrollment process (my parents were somewhat the great procrastinators, and I was never all that inclined to know any different myself, and was somewhat naive at how things worked in life too) so my choices of what classes I could take for my freshmen year were limited.  I was interested in art and wanted to take art classes but by the time I was supposed to sign up for classes the art classes were all filled, as were the wood shop (industrial arts) classes.

That meant I had a choice of taking a foreign language or perhaps doubling up on sciences or history/current events type classes.  The doubling up wasn't likely to happen since the classes I would take in that area were generally reserved for upper level students, so it became a choice of taking French or Spanish.

Having no preference myself, my mother -- always trying to help push me in the right direction {from her point of view} -- felt that taking French would be good as French was a romantic language.  It was also a language that some of my elder cousins had taken so perhaps they could help me out if I took it.  Besides, the Spanish classes were full so I really didn't have a choice there anyway.

As things turned out though, the French class I was enrolled in didn't go past the first week.  The first 3 days in fact.  By the end of day 1 we were instructed to find another class and get the teacher to sign off on accepting us into that class as there weren't enough students taking French to justify keeping that class going.  With the special dispensation of being forced to leave the French class and find a new home for that period of schooling, I was able to get into the art class I had wanted all along (Spanish was still full and by the time they took one or two of my classmates from the French class, they were well over capacity).

So, year 1 of my high school progressed with no foreign language classes.  By the end of year one, I was excelling in art classes and my mother was resigned to the idea that I was where I belonged.  No more mention of foreign language classes until, well, I enlisted in the U.S. Army (Reserves).

While at basic training, apparently based on my scores on the ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery) tests the military was interested to see if perhaps I had the inclination and skill to be turned into a translator.  I was pulled aside (along with some of my fellow soldiers going through basic) and tested to see if I might, just might, be of use as a translator.

The test consisted of logic and deductive reasoning to take some nonsensical (to me) sounds and try to turn them into phrases.  You'd hear something that was supposed to be a root word or part of a phrase and were supposed to start deciphering what a phrase was based upon a fragment of speech.

Apparently I wasn't good enough at it to warrant any more effort at changing my designated area of expertise that I had selected when enlisting, so no more was said about it and I moved on.

That was quite literally the last real opportunity I'd assume I had for learning a foreign language, with the exception of computer languages which I found myself quickly able to adapt to over my time in school.  I went from learning BASIC to PASCAL, to COBOL and FORTRAN, to ASSEMBLER and later C++ and perhaps a few others tossed in for good measure (dBase and such).  The simple logical rules always made sense to me and going from one language to the next always seemed easy.

I guess that is part of what the Army must have seen in me and expected in me when I had enlisted, and is probably the reason the Army 'wasted' the day to test my potential as a linguist or translator.

Unfortunately for them the ability to translate computer languages and work in various dialects of same didn't translate (pardon the pun) into linguistic skills I guess.

Anyway, all of this brings up the point that I never learned a foreign language.  There are many times now when I wish I had learned Spanish.  Especially with the influx of Spanish speakers that have come into the U.S.A. in the last several years.  Knowing the language intriques me.  I think it might help to know better how to communicate with people that are providing service, and cooking food for me in fast food restaurants.

So, I'm left to ask of readers -- do you know any other languages or are you only fluent in good ol' gringo English?

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Part of what reminded me about this issue was the excellent episode of Seinfeld where Elaine ('Princess') went to get her manicure and the people that were servicing her were talking about her behind her back.  She wound up taking George's dad into the shop where he was her 'spy' and translated the bad gossip that was being said back to English for her.

There've been times when I wonder just what is being said about me.  Yeah, yeah, I know I'm somewhat paranoid there.

But then again one of my otherwise favorite pizza places has been missing my business somewhat of late because the waitresses were busy yackin' about the fact that one of their regulars had slightly changed up his order one day.  I caught that conversation while using the restroom (while exiting actually) and was snickerin' somewhat about it, but was also thinking what poor taste it is to talk about customers while they are in your facility.

Heck, I know I may gripe a bit about customers at my work-place at times but never publicly, and normally I'm very, very, very careful to make sure there's no way my griping will come back to haunt me later.  I consider it a somewhat natural release and figure that it happens all over.  But I also consider that it's rude and shouldn't be done and try to live by those rules more often than not.

Still, I would like to learn some Spanish and I suppose it is never too late to start, but then my motivation just isn't there at this point.  At least not enough to really make myself get off my somewhat pudgy butt and get to learnin'

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Ich spreche Deutsch...ein bischen...kinder Deutsch. Sie mussen langsam sprechen und mit kleine Worte. I used to know a lot of phrases in several languages...like, "Stop!"..."Throw down your weapons"...and "put your hands up"...but you know, if you don't use 'em, you just don't retain 'em. Overseas, Americans aren't expected to speak the local language so it really gets their attention when they find out you do understand all the crappy things they've been saying about you.
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In 5th grade we were required to take two years of French,  and then in high school I chose to take Spanish for two or three years.  I WAS fluent in Spanish,  however have forgotten how "conjugate" verbs..still remember a few expressions,  can carry on somewhat of a conversation. 

The French I had to take is totally gone from my memory,  except for words like the word for flower, just the occasional expression I might remember...hmmmm,  might be fun to start over,  trying to learn it

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There've been times when I wonder just what is being said about me. Yeah, yeah, I know I'm somewhat paranoid there.

I was once intro duced to the mom of my Mexican boyfriend,  and she told him I was too fat ( she spoke in Spanish to him) and I caught every word and replied to her comments........after that he didn't take me there anymore..ahhh well.  So maybe you're not paranoid after all!  probably are "spot on" if you think people are commenting about you if they change the lanuage!!

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Reply By: Big Fat DaddyPosted: Sunday, September 02, 2007
Ich spreche Deutsch

it's odd,  I can pronounce perfectly that statement,  however don't know the words to answer it!!  strange...

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From MamaCharlie:

I had the opportunity to take six years of Spanish, a semester of French, and a six-week course in German (while living there; I spent more than twelve years in Germany altogether). Of all the things I have done in my life, learning these languages and spending some real time outside the USA were the most important, next to being a wife and mother. and learning to read and write. I feel today that everyone should have the chance to do this. It's hard to put in into words just how a person's perspective enlarges when he knows another language or can see for himself what things are like in another country. I would advise anyone, no matter what age, to take a language course. You won't regret it. Muchas gracias y buena suerte.
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Puedo hablar mejor el español que el inglés muchas veces. Ya he perdido la mayoría de mis habilidades con este tonto idioma que hablamos acá.

Pero así es la vida. Tengo que seguir adelante con el inglés, porque hay tanta gente en este país que no quiere aprender ningun otro idioma.
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I can speak Indonesian reasonably well and read/write it better - good enough to write a thesis in it a few years back. I can also understand a little Javanese, although I can't speak it too well. Thanks to many years of primary and high school French and Italian I can get the gist of something written in either language even if I don't understand it fully.

But I'm only really fluent in English. I think you have to raised bilingually or speak a second language exclusively for years to get really good.
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It's hard to put in into words just how a person's perspective enlarges when he knows another language or can see for himself what things are like in another country. I would advise anyone, no matter what age, to take a language course.


I think you put it into words very well, how fortunate you could live and learn another culture! Exciting!

My kid sis and me used to talk to each other, at the supper table, in spanish, and it drove my mom crazy!

Later years I taught basic, easy words and expressions to my son and daugter, as they were growing up. It was fun for our kids cause one of the other owner/operators at the taxi company was Spanish and it pleased him to hear caucasian children talking to him in his native tongue.
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I took Spanish and German in high school.  My dad is Mexican and spoke Spanish but the only time he really used it was when he talked to his parents or brothers and sisters on the phone.  We did go visit them in Texas when I was a kid and I picked up a lot during that visit but lost it again. 

I can pick out some words and phrases when people speak Spanish but I have a harder time speaking it myself.  I basically have to think too hard and too long to respond and by then the conversation has moved on.  I haven't mastered the art of thinking in Spanish.  I still have to translate everything in my head which slows you down.  I think an immersion class or trip would be fabulous.  I would love to become fluent in another language.  Where I live, it's a definate bonus in the job search if you are bilingual. 

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Eu falar Portugues--um poco. The problem with learning a language is that you have to keep it up or you lose it quite quickly. This is a shame as I have had so many opportunities.

I lived in Kwa-Zulu Natal, South Africa, and learnt to speak Zulu--a wonderful language and quite expressive. I also speak Afrikaans and so can understand Dutch and Flemish. The Zulu faded when I moved to Lesotho and started to learn South Sotho. That faded too when I moved to Angola and started on Portuguese. I never lost the Afrikaans because I seem to find Afrikaners everywhere but I lost the South Sotho.

My Portuguese was improving when I moved to Cairo and started learning Arabic. It is passable but my son says I intersperse my Arabic with Portuguese and a little Zulu now and then! It's hopeless! So many languages and all mixed up!

I think I'm going to take up Italian next!
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Fluently is relative.  Like BFD, Ich spreche ein bischen Deutsch, und Franzoesich, and sogar Spanisch. aber als sagte Adnauseum, Sie mussen es verwenden.

I can read them better than hearing them because you have time to figure out the words.  Speaking is the slowest of the 3 though.