Game crashing need help

New to the game and i really like it but it keeps crashing every few turns. The only thing i can think of that i have not done is updateing my vid drivers but i dont really want to go through that right now. Any ideas would be very appreciated. Thank you!

Debug Message: Version v1.4x last updated on: Mon Oct 23 17:43:56 2006
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System Info
Time: 7/7/2007, 14:30:00
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: OWNER-K0N3ZT9M2
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.050301-1526)
Languages: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Seanix Technology Inc
System Model: MS-6741
BIOS: Version 07.00T
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Driver Date: 12/16/2006 20:50:46
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Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
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Driver Date: 3/19/2004 14:02:08
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Reply #1 Top
Have you tried a clean reinstall from SDC?
Reply #3 Top
Then maybe it is time to try updating those video (and possibly audio) drivers.
Reply #4 Top
I have been looking at the other bug reports that had similar problems and found something about increasing my pagefile?? dose anyone know what this is and if it might help? if not i will update my drivers but i really wanted to do that as a last resort.
Thanks
Reply #5 Top
Why update drivers as a last resort?
Modern games require modern drivers, plain and simple.

To increase your swapfile:
On the Desktop, right-click on My Computer and choose Properties.
Select the 'Advanced' tab.
In the 'Performance' section click the 'Settings' button.
Select the 'Advanced' tab.
In the 'Virtual Memory' section click the 'Change' button.
Select 'Custom Size' (probably for your 'c' drive), and set both 'Initial' and 'Maximum' sizes to 2048.
This will set up a static swap file of 2GB (which should be enough, since you have 1.5GB of physical ram).
Then 'OK' your way out of the screens.
You may need to reboot the computer to make the changes effective, and you will be prompted to do so if necessary.

But, really, not keeping up to date on your video and audio drivers is simply asking for trouble. Being lazy can only get you so far. Drivers should be the first resort - not the last.

Reply #6 Top

Why update drivers as a last resort?

Well, in his case, his version of DL is older than his video drivers. But who knows?

Reply #7 Top
Still, crashing every few turns equates to either a driver problem, or a hardware problem (especially with version 1.4X or later).


Drivers are easy and quick, so should be the first response.
Hardware problems can be harder to find. Perhaps overheating of a particular chipset, or a faulty ram chip (which sometimes can be solved with a simple reseating and/or rearranging).

Reply #8 Top
You are right i know drivers should not be a last resort but i am not good with the inner workings of computers and tend to mess it up . Moosetek13 thanks for the info i will give it a shot soon and let you know.
Reply #9 Top
Well, then, good luck Ihef.

Let me know if I can help you with anything.

Driver installs are usually just, download the file and run the .exe with the default settings.
Reply #10 Top
Well the swapfile thing helped but it still crashs lots. The thing is the game works fine at the start but once a fair number of ships show up it starts to crash thats why i am thinking its a ram/memory problem but then again i dont know much about computers. Unless some new ideas come my way looks like i have to grow the balls to update everything.
Reply #11 Top
Well, you definitely need to update things. You are even still back on SP1 of XP, so there is no telling how old a lot of stuff is.
Don't you ever go to Windows Update?
Do you run a virus scanner? And are those signatures out of date as well?
It is so hard to help you find the problem, if you won't even help yourself with routine maintenance.

If you are afraid to do it yourself, at least get it into a shop and let a pro do it for you.
Reply #12 Top
You have told me to updtae in all 5 of your posts i get it already i agree with you so you can stop now . Thanks again for the help with the swapfile its helped with all my games not just galciv.