Apple Releases Safari Beta for Windows

Umm... yay?

http://www.apple.com/safari

Yesterday, at the keynote for the Apple World Wide Developer Conference, CEO Steve Jobs announced that the next version of the previously Apple-only web browser, Safari, would be making its way to the Windows world.  In fact, upon the end of the keynote when the newly redesigned Apple.com was launched, you could download a beta of Safari 3.  It looks like Apple is hoping to take the browser world by storm like it did with the music player/store software market with iTunes.  However, there are many questions over whether or not yet another browser will make much of a splash in a market already crowded by larger-name players.

Yesterday, approximately 1.14% of our visitors were using Safari, as opposed to a 0.25% most days previous.

It is worth noting that we do not currently support Safari on WinCustomize, so if you're running the beta and you're getting flaky display problems, or submission forms aren't working, please just switch back to your standard PC browser.  Safari is considered beta so it may not function properly.

If you've been using Safari for the past day now, what are your thoughts on it?  Will it take the place of Internet Explorer, Firefox or Opera on your system?

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Reply #1 Top
No chance it'll take place. Importing bookmarks is a hassle. Most RSS feeds are broken with impoting. I admit, it does look a lot nicer then the default firefox 2 and IE screens, but customization is what makes FF the best(safarai has little to no supported customizing), and IE is still there because it comes default with Windows machines. I have no idea what Operas appeal is.
Reply #2 Top
Text looks awful! And I hate the look of the browser, it's like iTunes, and I don't like iTunes loook. Horrible. As for it being "faster", I think that's coz it draws after the page is loaded fully so the next page appears all at once instead of sections. Not switching permanently, I'm sticking to IE7 and keeping away from firefox 2 still.
Reply #3 Top
I have both Windows XP, and Mac, so I have some experience with both and for some time now.

I do like Safari, though I haven't tried it on Windows. Safari works well, very smooth most of the time, loads pages fairly fast, and the features are nice as well. I like the way the bookmarks extend to the full page, accessing the history, and the overall look and appeal. I'm still on dial-up and that just for reference. The article also explains why I have been having trouble loading Wincustomize, it does load, but I haven't had access to making comments and such on my personal pages.

Internet Explorer 7 seems to work better some times better than others. I have had long waits trying to access Wincustomize, and uploading has been a problem as well with the new upload feature, and over the past few days have switched to the Flock browser to upload, and to access the site. What a difference on dial-up, it has been fast to load, and access my pages to check on comments. I timed it a couple of times, and so far about 15 seconds on Dial-Up is about the best, and that from loading Flock from off the menu, clicking on Wincustomize on the toolbar, and navigating Wincustomize to my pages. So...I think that is fairly fast.

I know that Flock wasn't mentioned above, but for those that haven't tried that, it may be worth your while. The feature of a photo stream on the browser is nice as well, and the Yahoo Search that seems to be new and improved works well, too, and kind of like Spotlight on Mac for finding things.

Best Regards,

Steve
Reply #4 Top
Crashes every time I want to access bookmarks, has trouble displaying most pages I regularly visit...seeing as it's a beta, I'm not surprised, but I've grown used to betas that are way more stable and quite more functional.

I might use it and discard it as a novelty item, but from what I've seen thus far, it won't stay on my drive for too long.
Reply #5 Top
I'll just repeat what I said on AeroXP. I bet after a few betas they'll get tired of not being able to get it to work right, so they'll do what they did with iTunes. Ask Microsoft for help.
Reply #6 Top
I was going to post a comment on this page USING Safari, but it crashed as soon as I clicked "Add Reply" (there was no text field). So, I switched to Firefox for this bit. Overall, Safari is doing pretty well, and it even has all the nice animations of an OS X application (for example, the popups "swoop" from the titlebar). I really do like it. Now I can almost complete my OS X emulation on PC but....I doubt it can be skinned very easily, and it has the same appearance of an old version of iTunes, with the Action Buttons, etc. But it has the overall Leopard interface. I'm gonna use it for a while more and report back.
Reply #7 Top
I'd just like to bring to everyone's attention that there are some issues with Safari for Windows and some pretty run of the mill browser vulnerabilities. I would seriously discourage anyone from using it.

Read more here: http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/06/12/0120230.shtml
Reply #8 Top
I don't see anything in Safari that Avant doesn't offer - except Snapback and resizable textboxes. For me, that's a big who cares.
Reply #10 Top
It all sounds wonderful, but it crashes on me every time I try to run it.
Reply #11 Top
Well, i like having it around now, just so i can test my web layouts without spending 3000$ on a mac; BUT - i dont think it'll take over.
In typical Apple fashion, its lets the user do almost NO customization;

And a BIG gripe for me, is how unlike IE7 (and firefox? i dont know), you cannot set it to always open new links in a new tab in the same window. So if a website has an A tag with a target set to a new window, i get an actual NEW WINDOW, which kinda defeats the purpose of tabbed browsing.

plus, how the search box is locked in to just Google and Yahoo. In IE7, i have other search providers in there that i use VERY regularly - google images, wikipedia, imdb, netflix, etc.

Its okay, but just WAY to limiting and cumbersome to do many basic things.
Reply #12 Top
- didn't import my bookmarks like it said it would
- i miss my firefox extensions!
- doesn't work with my ThinkPad center/scroll button
- can't go back by hitting backspace... and apparently snapback brings me ALL the way back. not sure if i can just go back a page or two somehow?

On the plus side, it does seem faster.

tried it, and now i think i'm done with it.
Reply #13 Top
what a pile of crud!! doesn't work at all, can't get it to do anything. Most of the buttons are missing, all the text is white on a white BG, and I can't even type anything in the address bar!!

UNINSTALLED....................... next contender please.......
Reply #14 Top
When you say you don't support Safari on Wincustomize, you should go on to say that you don't support Opera and Firefox either, and that you only support Internet Explorer.
Reply #15 Top
Worst. Browser. Ever.

I like Safari on the Mac, but this is just a turd. Code to Windows guidelines morons [Apple]. They are there for a reason.
Reply #16 Top
It's funny that all these people are getting all bent out of shape over a BETA, NOT a FINAL PRODUCT. BETA clearly means IN TESTING, NOT PERFECT.
Reply #17 Top

When you say you don't support Safari on Wincustomize, you should go on to say that you don't support Opera and Firefox either, and that you only support Internet Explorer.

We actually do support Firefox.

Reply #18 Top
Yeah, I was about to say that Firefox loads the site perfectly for me.

Anyway, I seem to be in the minority but I quite like Safari, but it's not too usable for me. Every time that little popup thing appears asking me to save a password or add a bookmark the thing crashes on me.

I miss some features too, specifically, session restore. Like a lot of people I'll probably use it for testing for now and see how it is when the beta phase is done.
Reply #19 Top
safari, while it is a capable browser it is nothing to write home about, the text is way to small even though this can be adjusted, the look reminds me of computer interfaces ala windows 98. it is slow to load, pages load slowly, i dont know where apple got the idea that it is the worlds fastest browser because even IE7 is faster on loading pages than safari. firefox and opera put it to shame, maybe once it gets out of beta and into final release stage this may have improved but until then i will stick with what i have. all in all not a bad effort but in a windows enviroment it still has a very long way to go. i guess if you are using apple o/s then this would be acceptable but out in the big bad world it is totally unacceptable. better luck next time stevie baby
Reply #20 Top
Know whats funny.... I had to open IE to get to this page. I was able to browse the WC main page with Safari. When I clicked on the link for this article .. guess what? Safari Crashes. HAHAH. Someone already took a bite out of the Apple.
Reply #21 Top

And a BIG gripe for me, is how unlike IE7 (and firefox? i dont know), you cannot set it to always open new links in a new tab in the same window. So if a website has an A tag with a target set to a new window, i get an actual NEW WINDOW, which kinda defeats the purpose of tabbed browsing.


I am pretty sure Firefox has the ability to use just one window. I've used it since.. before version 1 and I rarely ever have two Firefox windows open. Tabs ftw.
Reply #22 Top

When you say you don't support Safari on Wincustomize, you should go on to say that you don't support Opera and Firefox either, and that you only support Internet Explorer.

Six years ago, at the dawn of Wincustomize.com I for one spent many hours uploading to the galleries, helping T-Man with Opera compatibility testing....

 

Reply #23 Top
Wow, when I read this earlier today, I was going to dl the browser and give it a spin, now that I've had time to read through all these posts, none of which were here earlier when I made that decision, I think I'll stay away and keep using my trusty IE7. Thanks to those of you who posted your troubles with Safari here.
Reply #24 Top
'Day One' for Safari for Windows Becomes Zero-Day Nightmare
By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews
June 12, 2007, 11:20 AM

"It took security engineers perhaps less than two hours yesterday to introduce Apple's surprise entry in the field of Windows browsers to the big, cruel world of exploits and vulnerabilities, following its introduction yesterday morning at WWDC. As a result, much of the clout Safari had received as the secure browsing alternative to Internet Explorer and Firefox -- as long as it was on a Macintosh -- was burned off like fire to a flash fuse."

Good Luck!   
Reply #25 Top

I use FF on WC and everything works fine....except one thing....The Photo management app for Personal Photo Galleries is not FF friendly. To get around that, I use the IE Tab Extention.

After reading some posts, I think I will wait to try Safari.