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Windows XP (OEM) to be phased out by year

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Windows XP (OEM) to be phased out by year

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According to a report by famous tech news website Winbeta, Microsoft has decided to phase-out the OEM editions of Windows XP by the end of this year despite consumers resistance to adopt Vista due to compatibility issues and hardware requirements. As a result computer manufacturers will only be able to sale Vista loaded Pc's.

By early 2008, Microsoft's contracts with computer makers will require companies to only sell Vista-loaded machines.

Despite Microsoft's relentless promotion of Vista, manufacturers are still seeing plenty of demand from customers for systems preloaded with XP, especially in the finicky SOHO market.

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Reply #51 from WinCustomize Forums Top

OEM

Why shouldn't MS require that manufactures ship with the "best and brightest" product




I think it's a good idea for manufacturers to have the newest stuff. however, with vista still being, for lack of a better term, "new", phasing out good ol' XP shouldn't be considered....yet. Manufacturers should (even though some do now, i'm talking about in the future) give you the choice of XP or Vista ( and not to mention all of Vista's siblings)i dont think XP should be phased out until late '09. unless there's some big breakthrough with Vista, I can't see XP dying anytime soon.
Reply #52 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Astyanax0 - I thought you were no longer contributing to the conversation. Apparently it was going somewhere enough for you to come out of "retirement".

Anyway...

Good riddance, I can't stand XP after being on Vista since it went RTM. When I go to work and have to use XP everything is so much slower and less responsive. Glad to hear its getting the well deserved boot.


So you work for an IT firm. Right? Well I would assume you guys get fairly high-end machines to work from. Right? So my post still stands. If XP is so slow and unresponsive, but runs less processes and has less graphic eye candy than Vista...how does Vista just rocket around being more graphic intense and running significantly more processes? The answer? Because you just installed it. Give Vista a while, clutter it up with stuff and it won't be so fast anymore. This is sadly true of any system...no matter how wonderful it is or may be. Whenever I do a clean install of XP, its 100 times faster than the previous cluttered install. But what do I know...you are the expert. Right?
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Reply #53 from WinCustomize Forums Top
This is an interesting conversation but two things stick keep nagging at me.
  1. MS knows more than us about the market.  Phasing out XP as OEM won't affect so many people that they will lose business.
  2. MS makes the business.  If they phase out XP as OEM it is done.  No need to discuss it. 
Small business may have some choice, but any large business have to go with the big shops.  They need the support structure and consistency of the business.
Lets face it, if your apps run on Vista, and the price point for hardware that runs it is always dropping and therefore comparable to an XP build, you are going to want Vista.  It will have better support going forward, updates to your other software will be optimized for it, all the other cool companies will have it.  Seems like a no-brainer to me. 
Reply #54 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Small business may have some choice, but any large business have to go with the big shops. They need the support structure and consistency of the business.

Not necessarily true. The large (Fortune 100) company I work for is finally replacing the various Win95 and NT4 boxes with Win2000. Only the laptops have XP. And they are still standardized on Office97!

Lets face it, if your apps run on Vista, and the price point for hardware that runs it is always dropping and therefore comparable to an XP build, you are going to want Vista. It will have better support going forward, updates to your other software will be optimized for it, all the other cool companies will have it.

And that's partly the point. Most of the software I need to run (PLC machine programming software, SCADA data collection systems, etc.) do NOT work on the latest and greatest MS OS whenever it comes out. These type of programs need to be stable, and need to run on a known stable OS... NOT the latest bug-infested, half-tested, beta release (no matter what MS labels it) of MS's latest half-baked OS. Vista is a buggy, drm-infested, overbloated pig of an OS, and the closest it's coming to my computer for at least a year or two is in a virtual machine... DEFINITELY not my host!!

The point to all of this is that customer should be offered a choice. Obviously, from the article, many customers are currently exercising that choice, and choosing XP! By taking away that choice, MS will be driving away customers, and may be skating that thin edge of their monopolistic behaviour.
Reply #55 from WinCustomize Forums Top
By taking away that choice, MS will be driving away customers, and may be skating that thin edge of their monopolistic behaviour.
  Driving them away to what?  Apple?  *nix?
MS can't lose new sales based on this.  At worse those not able to upgrade won't and will continue using 2000, XP, NT or WFWG, etc.
Reply #56 from WinCustomize Forums Top
MS can't lose new sales based on this. At worse those not able to upgrade won't and will continue using 2000, XP, NT or WFWG, etc.


I still use MS DOS. I don't get this whole bloated GUI thing.
Reply #57 from WinCustomize Forums Top
I still use MS DOS. I don't get this whole bloated GUI thing
LMAO
Reply #59 from WinCustomize Forums Top
Great a new generation of whinners complaining about Vista , I thought we'd just got rid of all the die hard 98 lovers (dear god why!)
Vista uses dual core in a way that xp can't , it looks nicer , crashes less and is a much better product (testing Vista since last summer for my company) why all the militant XP loving ? have you been using it for the last 7 years ? it is far from great and as long as you have a discreet DX9 card and 1gb of ram Vista will run faster on your machine (yes proven and tested)
Waiting till next Jan to dump OEM XP is a long time i assummed they already had
Vista doesnt need any major fixes although alot of drivers do (Nvidia GRRRRRR)
If you don't like change and progress I think computers maybe the wrong job/passtime maybe try politics
Reply #60 from WinCustomize Forums Top

crashes less

Vista hasn't really met me....yet.....just ask yrag....

Reply #61 from WinCustomize Forums Top
oh its display driver crashes several times an hour in MCE which is totally down to nvidia being useless (my new ati card works perfectly)
I tend to kick seven shades of stuff out of my system and it has very reassuring stability that XP never had.
that said UAC is a piece of stuff as is the bundled crap, quite why anyone would want to buy a shiny new 4/8 core machine next jan and install XP on it is a bit like watching VHS on my HDTV , it works but kinda defeats the point
Reply #62 from WinCustomize Forums Top
imo, the best way to see if vista's right for you is to try it yourself. on my old box, it ran, but the inability to run my programs made me want to trash it. then i snuck my way into a new PC, and am using XP Pro until nVidia comes out with "working" drivers, and until the software patches come in. I don't mind giving up some pieces of software, and in truth, i probably should, but i want proper drivers for my video card, and sound card. by the way, i tested Vista Business, and it was very nice, but with this newer box, it should be even better.

OLD PC
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ 754 socket 2.4GHz 512K L2
2GB DDR-400 Crucial Memory PC3200
ATI Radeon X850 AGP 256MB GDDR3
ECS mATX mainboard
Maxtor 300GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache
1xDVDRW
1xDVDROM
Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Audio
970 Watts Total power (550+420)

NEW PC
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ AM2 Socket 2.4GHz 1MB L2
1GB DDR2-667 SuperTalent Memory PC5400
nVidia GeForce 7800 GT OC 256MB GDDR3
Gigabyte mAtx Mainboard
Maxtor 300GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache
Western Digital 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache
2xDVDRW
Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Audio
550 Watt Titan PSU

my new box is amazingly fast in XP, and i can't wait to see it in Vista. Should be amazing! just need decent nForce Drivers...
Reply #63 from WinCustomize Forums Top
heh. my NEW machine is at the specs of your OLD machine

Runs well tho, except for the video
Reply #64 from WinCustomize Forums Top
What does OEM mean. Thanks , still learning.


It means Original Equipment Manufacturer, a WinXP OEM is the version that is only intended to be shipped to system builders.
Reply #65 from WinCustomize Forums Top

heh. my NEW machine is at the specs of your OLD machine

Runs well tho, except for the video


i loved that box, but my boss was on me to upgrade to PCI-E. hmm...maybe because we're a gaming center, and need DX10 support? still waiting for a few hundred bucks for that 8800 card... maybe he should pay for it...
Reply #66 from WinCustomize Forums Top
And it seems like at least one manufacturer has seen the light! Dell Offers XP on new Systems again

And to Mr. Fourth Letter. Obviously you did not read my post. It's not so much that I dislike Vista (even though I do... I believe it is a severely overpriced, feature bloated, DRM-infested pig). It's that the applications which I require to perform my job do not, and will not, support running on Vista for some time - I'm sure at least a year. And I'm not the only one in my field with the same situation/concerns.