Why I Am Considering Leaving

Not a plea to stay nor a plea period.

I guess going through what I just went through last January has put things into a sharper perspective for me.

I see people writing article about differing things and lo and behold someone or many someones just have to take what is written PERSONAL, and treat the writer like a blood enemy, attack the writer, try to demean the writer and in many cases do their best to try to run the writer off Joeuser and sometimes they succeed. Many times it just becomes to damn painful for me to write an article that turns ugly. I am finding out this is just not worth the time or the stress it brings to my life while I am busy healing.

In the last couple visits I have seen Parated exit, and it looks like a forever exit.. I shall miss him.. I have seen Bakerstreet fade away and even though baker and I clash at times I miss him too. Too many good people have just left Joeuser because of all the friction and slowly I am leaning in that direction too. Soon there will be nothing left but folks that continue to intentionally misread things so feuds can start, wars can flare up, sides get chosen and cyber blood flows. This once wonderful site has slowly degenerated into "pick-a-fight.com." and it's a crying shame.

This is just my honest opinion about what I see recently, it is not aimed at anyone in particular, it was not written to start a fight with anyone, it was not written so people would rally around and ask me to stay. It was written because it is what I SEE THESE DAYS, nothing more, nothing less.

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Hey MM, I hope you stay. I guess some of us have simply stopped posting controversial articles for the reason you state.  I am not trying to drive anyone away, least of all those I disagree with.  But some seem on a vendetta, and those we just have to ignore.  We dont need JU to be du.org.
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little-whipApril 8, 2007 17:31:04


JU has always been this way, MM, and in fact, I think it's calmed down a LOT since my first months here. I think your recent brush with death has just made you more sensitive to it.

Sorry I didn't have time to chat when you called this afternoon, I'll give you a buzz tomorrow if that's ok.


I am out of minutes sabrina, till the 11th, call today or the 11th or it will cost me 40 cents a minute to yak and when you and I get going we yak 45 minutes plus.
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(Citizen)Dr GuyApril 8, 2007 18:00:11


Maybe whip is right doc, my brush with death has made me over sensitive to stuff. time will tell.
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I try to not get into the fray. Yes, occassionally I have had my feelings hurt and I do not post as much personal stuff as I used to. I still think there are lots of fun people to interact with on JU such as moi - lol.
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This stuff is definitely cyclical, and has come and gone a lot since I've been around JU.  I see people that I like fade away for a while and then later return when their batteries are recharged and things are better for them.  I miss the folks you mention and hope they come back soon, but I'm sure that things will keep going in the cycle.

There will be people on either side of the conservative vs. liberal debate that will keep fighting with the other side.  It is just the nature of the political fight in both sides.  Perhaps that is why I've done more articles in other areas over time, because doing the same old stuff gets boring for everyone, especially me.

Anyway, I hope you don't go running off on us MM.  Instead consider doing some articles on other topics and just avoid the politics for a while.  Talk about pets, music, sports, TV or movies.  Anything you want.  Give us a better look at the real you.  And ignore the politics for a while and let yourself rest up more in that area.  Especially considering we are still a good ways from 2008.  No need to get riled up about things this far away from the next election anyway

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hmmmm, I've been very busy the past few days. It seems I missed a few things.

In any public forum there are going to be some who are antagonistic. It's just human nature as some people simply that way. I try to just ignore them.

It's a shame to lose good people because of a few bad ones.
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If you'll notice, I avoid the controversy/argumentative stuff like the plague here. I have enough of that crap in real life and so I certainly don't need it here. I come here to relax and write a little bit and interact with a few friends and NOT to argue and endlessly debate some issue that I can't do a thing about changing in the first place.

It's a shame to lose good people because of a few bad ones.


Ditto that. You're one of the good ones. Stay.
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Maybe whip is right doc, my brush with death has made me over sensitive to stuff. time will tell.


Hey MM, I don't see you as being "over sensitive" at all. I think it's smart to listen to our feelings and care about our health enough to avoid stress, wherever or whatever we perceive it to be.

I'll sure miss you if you go, I love ya

Lots of well wishes and hugs for you xoxooxooxox continue being good to yourself and maybe you can pop in every once in a while?

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Hi, MM, hope you are doing well.

As for leaving JU, I won't make a plea, but will just say that the door is permanently open for you if or when you decide to continue blogging on a regular basis.
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Reply By: LocamamaPosted: Sunday, April 08, 2007
I try to not get into the fray. Yes, occassionally I have had my feelings hurt and I do not post as much personal stuff as I used to. I still think there are lots of fun people to interact with on JU such as moi - lol.

I miss seeing your stuff amy, and thank you for your support while I was ill.

 

elie

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Reply By: terpfan1980Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2007
This stuff is definitely cyclical, and has come and gone a lot since I've been around JU. I see people that I like fade away for a while and then later return when their batteries are recharged and things are better for them. I miss the folks you mention and hope they come back soon, but I'm sure that things will keep going in the cycle.
There will be people on either side of the conservative vs. liberal debate that will keep fighting with the other side. It is just the nature of the political fight in both sides. Perhaps that is why I've done more articles in other areas over time, because doing the same old stuff gets boring for everyone, especially me.
Anyway, I hope you don't go running off on us MM. Instead consider doing some articles on other topics and just avoid the politics for a while. Talk about pets, music, sports, TV or movies. Anything you want. Give us a better look at the real you. And ignore the politics for a while and let yourself rest up more in that area. Especially considering we are still a good ways from 2008. No need to get riled up about things this far away from the next election anyway

Good advice...all terp.. thanx

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Reply By: MasonMPosted: Sunday, April 08, 2007
hmmmm, I've been very busy the past few days. It seems I missed a few things.

In any public forum there are going to be some who are antagonistic. It's just human nature as some people simply that way. I try to just ignore them.

I try too mason, but sometimes the hatred expressed is so virulent it is hard to ignore

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Lots of well wishes and hugs for you xoxooxooxox continue being good to yourself and maybe you can pop in every once in a while?
Reply By: TrudygolightlyPosted: Sunday, April 08, 2007

 

how very very sweet trudy... thank you.

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Reply By: shadesofgreyPosted: Sunday, April 08, 2007
I have no idea what is going on, but I love to see you posting.

 

I got it on good info that you will soon have yer own place to live. How is that going?

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Reply By: InBloomPosted: Monday, April 09, 2007
Hi, MM, hope you are doing well.

Your card from not just you but hubby {udigitthemost} was such a treasure rose.. sigh.... so many good people here, it is a shame that a few poison mouths ruin it.

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I liked Loca's philosophical view. Who gives a crank about the Joeusers who dominate some posts and push their pseudo-academic language onto anyone who wants to listen? I don't. It takes all types.
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Reply By: adnauseamPosted: Tuesday, April 10, 2007
I liked Loca's philosophical view. Who gives a crank about the Joeusers who dominate some posts and push their pseudo-academic language onto anyone who wants to listen? I don't. It takes all types.

I like her view too, to bad I just cannot follow it.. maybe when I grow up I will be able to. SMILE...

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I got it on good info that you will soon have yer own place to live. How is that going?


It's coming along--thanks for asking. I'm a bit over the top with it at the minute--it's all I talk about. The home inspection was this afternoon--and it went well. My fingers and toes are crossed that by midMay this place will be mine! Ah, I could talk about this all day long--but that is sure to bore everyone to death, so I won't.

How are you feeling these days? You're posting more which I'm taking as a good sign. Hoping you're feeling stronger!
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Reply By: shadesofgreyPosted: Tuesday, April 10, 2007
I got it on good info that you will soon have yer own place to live. How is that going?


It's coming along--thanks for asking. I'm a bit over the top with it at the minute--it's all I talk about. The home inspection was this afternoon--and it went well. My fingers and toes are crossed that by midMay this place will be mine! Ah, I could talk about this all day long--but that is sure to bore everyone to death, so I won't.

How are you feeling these days? You're posting more which I'm taking as a good sign. Hoping you're feeling stronger!

your first place? If so I totally understand why all the yakky yak about it. good for you meg. I am feeling stronger and soon {june I hope} will be up to full strength. Meg? You are one of a kind and truly a good person. anytime, anyplace, if you ever need an beat up old thug to talk to, or scare someone, I am always here for you.

 

with love, respect,

 

elie

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(Citizen)little-whipApril 9, 2007 06:21:39


You can take advantage of your increased awareness by using it to build empathy and become a kinder, gentler Elie, or you can let that new sensitivity take advantage of you and become a whiny, longsuffering (oy vey!) complainer.


oy!! if I start to become a whiny complainer, shoot me please!!
Reply #22 Top
Hey there, MM. This place can definitely bring you down sometimes.

I think it's better than it used to be, though. Or I'm getting thicker skin and better at ignoring people who bother me.

Izzy just woke up from her nap and she says, "grrraaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!", which translated, reads, "Aloha from Princess Isabella". Hehe.

Take care of yourself.

(And I agree, there are some really precious people here on JU. I've been blessed with love, well wishes, (and baby gear!) by so many people here. You are one of those people as well. I really appreciated your calling to check on me when I was in the hospital, and it's special to me that you were the first person outside my husband and my boys to find out that Izzy would be a girl.)

*hugs*
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Hello Elie..I'm just seeing this post. I understand how you feel and don't blame you for questioning yourself about staying. You would definately be missed! I"m glad you're getting better. Just continue to take care of you and don't let anyone or anything stress you more. I miss reading with you Elie. It would definately be hard to say goodbye. So many nice bloggers have moved on....it's your choice but know that I'll never forget you!
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I try too mason, but sometimes the hatred expressed is so virulent it is hard to ignore


Only if you allow it to be my friend. Try to see past it. No matter how bad it may appear in type remember there is a human being behind it and there is some reason they have chosen to express themselves in such a way. You and I both know how pain can affect one's outlook and pain comes in many forms.
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fuck it mod, we all leave and then we all come back.


do what you have to do. then come back and play with us in the sandbox. I've done it several times and there's always open arms when you come back, even with people you fought with before.


Good luck.