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Paying for individual WB's

Paying for individual WB's

I've been wondering about the thoughts and experiences of others regarding paying for individual WB skins. Are you finding aspects of the skins not skinning properly or as expected? And, why is there no download/purchase stats being posted per skin, as there are with all others?

Seems even the best skinners struggle with building perfect skins. The one I am using now is named "StealthOS", a great skin, and IMO by one of the best skinners, yet, the start panel text "Turn off Computer" falls off the panel, while 2 of his other skins appear as they should.

So far, only a few appear to properly skin all aspects of the applications I run; like Sean Grey's "Digital Grey."  However, that same skin becomes annoying as my mouse passes over the text on the Start-menu panel because all listings highlight. His "Chocolate", which is a great skin, however it to has problems with text falling off the start panel, and those things shouldn't happen.  Other skins fail to skin check boxes, eliminating the check box choice altogether making the skin worthless in a few applications.

Even though these problems seems sporadic per skin, I seldom find the perfectly complete skin.  I just downloaded Stardocks "Stargate SG-1" skin to find it's "Turn off Computer" is almost non-existent, I  deleted it.

No disrespect meant to hardworking skinners, cause many do a good job. But, I just won't pay for an unfinished product, no matter what it is.

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Reply #26 Top
I have bought a few skins that I thought were special, until I DLed them. When loaded, they weren't any thing special, so I won't buy another one. I know it invovles a lot of time and trouble, and if I could do it I would. But, Even at $4.95, it's not worth it. As a matter of fact, since I installed Vista Even with WB 5.5, they don't work right, and it's coming up time for me to renew. Can't decide if I want to. Then I think, well, They will get better. Always have. And I bought OD in 2002, and probably will stay with them. They're just some very good people on this site.
Reply #27 Top
I explained the button issue...some skins CANT accomodate a 3rd button...yes,you would have to include at least a substyle...or redesign the start menu and upload a second skin.
Reply #29 Top
Does anyone else notice that the more people quote in a thread, the longer the delay/freeze is when opening a thread?
Reply #30 Top
Which leads me to a general question about laptops...do all of them have an undock button?...I'm not a regular user of laptops so I dont see this 3rd button...I just know it exist.
Reply #31 Top
Freezing by quoting?Hmmmmmmmm...could be.
Reply #32 Top
OH,sorry I cant answer your initial question...I havnt bought any...me very poor...but judging from screenshots...I would be disappointed in some...I tend to like more graphically complex skins and most of the premiums seem to be playing it safe visually.
Reply #33 Top
I suppose a lot of skinners have never even seen an undock button.
Reply #34 Top
see this 3rd button...I just know it exist.


Laptops on a network have 3 buttons.

Most laptops have a 4th button on the logoff shutdown screens for hibernation.

Some non-english systems will have more letters for log off/turn off computer and can cramp the space forcing anomolies.

Reducing the log off and turn off computer buttons to 1 pixel wide will gain you some valuable real estate. The buttons are redundant anyways as they are ......redundant.   

You can make the start panel wider if the design calls for it.
Reply #35 Top
do all of them have an undock button?.


I have 3 in my office alone, and yes.
Reply #36 Top
Shit!  What happened to
Furthermore, if you can't understand what's meant by the text on the start menu being half off or almost non-existent, then there's nothing else to say.


??
Reply #37 Top
Basically, if all requirements were met within the design you would be severely restricted creatively in Start Panel design.
Reply #38 Top
Which leads me to a general question about laptops...do all of them have an undock button?...I'm not a regular user of laptops so I dont see this 3rd button...I just know it exist.


Mine isn't networked like these other chaps . . . so no. I have "Log off" and "Turn Off Computer".

And I don't have a "Hibernate" button, either . . . I guess I'm just maudlin like that.
Reply #39 Top
I have a sneaking suspicion most skinners aren't on a network.

I would however be interested in seeing a screen of the issue.
Reply #40 Top
I used StealthOS for a long, long time and never had any issues with it. I'd have to say if you're having the same problem with multiple skins from multiple authors, it's on your end.
Reply #41 Top
Or he just needs to tweak them in SKS to suit his requirements.
Reply #42 Top
Reducing the log off and turn off computer buttons to 1 pixel wide will gain you some valuable real estate. The buttons are redundant anyways as they are ......redundant.


Thats the method I endorse.
Reply #43 Top
I used StealthOS for a long, long time and never had any issues with it. I'd have to say if you're having the same problem with multiple skins from multiple authors, it's on your end.


You apparently didn't read my OP; and think if it works on your system, and not on others, then their system is the problem... LOL - all that deserves is....

I can run Ecliz_Deluxe 2, Edisso, Arrow, Rusty Rooster, Dynyx, and DogmaX4 with no problems. On the other hand, Thallos, Aura, Ares, Digital Grey and Chocolate and others have various problems not showing the turn off computer buttons properly. And, as stated Digital Grey (which I really like) hasn't a problem with the buttons, but does have a mouse hover problem on the start menue big time.

Or he just needs to tweak them in SKS to suit his requirements


Brainiac and night train seem constructive in that they are thinking of possible solutions.

I have skin studio Pro; what and specifically where can I tweak?


Reply #44 Top
If you want me to help you , which im more than willing to, post a screenshot. i have zero experience with networked computers logoff panels.

Its all I asked for in the first place.
Reply #45 Top
You apparently didn't read my OP; and think if it works on your system, and not on others, then their system is the problem... LOL - all that deserves is....


I did read, and as I read I notice that a few people mentioned the third button for laptops. You said yourself that you have an undock button right? That's what's messing up the skin, and it's on your system, so my original post stands.

How am I suppose to know who you are or where to post to you. And, don't talk to me like I am technically incompetent or naive; I founded a front-end software consulting company back in the early 80's and wrote two commercially marketed vertical applications that have been marketed on three continents since


big whoop. Is it your company that's 23 years old or you. If it's you that's 23 then you must have been a freaking genius to start a company when you were a toddler. You're so technically competent yet you couldn't figure out where to post. Most people would be willing to help if you weren't such an ass, and even after being an ass, people still helped you. Kudo's to them. Grow up.
Reply #46 Top
specifically where can I tweak?


button issue is in the logoff panel content margins.


Reply #47 Top
Btw....anybody uphere know how non-network desktop computer could simulate the "undock" buttons on start menu and "hibernation" button on the logoff/shutdown screen? This would help us skinner to design this two part more properly. If we cant see em we can really design it properly..

And a suggestion for Skinstudios to include these two buttons in the skinstudios preview panel as an option...

Reply #48 Top
And a suggestion for Skinstudios to include these two buttons in the skinstudios preview panel as an option


it should yes   
Reply #49 Top
If you want me to help you , which im more than willing to, post a screenshot. i have zero experience with networked computers logoff panels.

Its all I asked for in the first place.


Check your email... was sent yesterday to [email removed by Admin- please don't put email addresses owned by other people in the forums.  All it takes is one webcrawler and they'll end up with a boatload of SPAM]
Reply #50 Top
Most people would be willing to help if you weren't such an ass, and even after being an ass, people still helped you. Kudo's to them. Grow up.


I am in my late 50's, rude little boy should go to his room...