The end of the world will happen on .......

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Ok let me back up a bit. I got this from the history channel which is doing their Armageddon week. Every twisted way of ending the world will be presented this week. According to the Mayan calendar the world will come to an end on 21 December 2012. What do you think, should we cower in caves this day or just party like its 1999? Being an amateur astronomer I can see where they come up with that date as it is the time when the sun and the earth will align with the galactic center something that only happens once every 26k years. I am ignoring how they knew his or if they knew this. Not being familiar with Nostradamus and his supposed predictions; does anyone know when he predicted the end of the world? If so how close was he to the Mayan’s. So far all the predictions I have seen have been false. The Jehovah’s Witnesses first predicted the end of the world on 1900, then 1910, then 1975. I stopped paying attention after that. One woman in the 1500’s did a series of predictions that people claimed were 100% correct including the day of her own death, she predicted the submarine, airplane and other things that captured the imagination of film makers in 1981. The only prediction that turned out wrong was the end of the world she predicted that "In nineteen hundred and ninety-one the world will come to an end as one." Real catchy, but not very accurate.


It seems that the humans are preoccupied with mass death and destruction. Every millennium there is some nutty cult that predicts the end of the world. Jews, Christians, and Muslims all have sections in their religious text that tell of the end of the world. The Hindus also believe in the end of the world but it happens in cycles of 4.5 billion years. Well gee, humans have been around for almost 100k years I don’t think it is something we need to worry about since the sun is supposed to run out of fuel in about 4.5 billion years. I guess the Hindus are the closest to being correct so far as nailing down a date that can be verified ahead of it actually happening. Does this mean we should all convert to Hinduism? The monotheistic religions all point out the end of the world but none have given a date. The Christians believe according to the book of revelation that those Christians and some non-believers not in hell at the time of the second coming will be taken up in the sprit into heaven. Then the ones that are in hell will rise up. I kind of like the Christian belief cause everyone on earth gets to go to heaven all the other religions require you to believe in their version and vision of God in order to go to heaven or their equivalent.
The religion of science is the worse of all cause there is no salvation only prolonging what we have, if we are lucky. The planet will be destroyed by a rock from space, from a snowball from space, from the radiation from space, earthquakes caused by celestial alignments, hurricanes and tornados also caused by stuff from space. It seems that in that religion its believers are space happy in their belief that only it total reliance in science will we be saved. Even though there is no after life yet. I am sure that science will discover it sooner or later.


Then we have the antihuman religion. They believe that it is man that is destroying mankind by destroying the earth and that man needs to be eradicated in order to save mankind and the earth. I admit that I have a problem understanding the logic on this one.

Other than Christianity I don’t see any happy religions. What I mean is it is the only religion that has a happy ending, all the others have the earth destroyed and mankind dead with only the souls of the believers around.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Life is good! Anyone have an idea when the end of the world will be?
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Being an amateur astronomer I can see where they come up with that date as it is the time when the sun and the earth will align with the galactic center something that only happens once every 26k years.


well then it is an event not to be missed hey?
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Every millennium there is some nutty cult that predicts the end of the world. Jews, Christians, and Muslims all have sections in their religious text that tell of the end of the world.


This caters to everyones occasional wish to stop the world turning so they can step off it.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
This caters to everyones occasional wish to stop the world turning so they can step off it.


Not me. I like going around in circles.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Anyone have an idea when the end of the world will be?


I hope it's really soon.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
The Christians believe according to the book of revelation that those Christians and some non-believers not in hell at the time of the second coming will be taken up in the sprit into heaven. Then the ones that are in hell will rise up. I kind of like the Christian belief cause everyone on earth gets to go to heaven all the other religions require you to believe in their version and vision of God in order to go to heaven or their equivalent.



Well I'm a Christian and an avid studier and have been for years and have never even heard this version. Which Christians believe this? Where do they get this info? It's not biblical.

The rising up you speak of is the rapture and it's in 1 Thess 4:16-17 not Revelation and is only for those that are "in Christ" who will be taken up. The Christian faith does NOT teach that all go to heaven at all. The only ones that get to go into the Kingdom are the ones that know the King. You can't get in otherwise.

all the others have the earth destroyed and mankind dead with only the souls of the believers around.



Hate to disappoint you here bud, but have you read Revelation? In that book of the bible you can see clearly the earth will be burnt up in the end but that there will be a "new" earth. The reason? Sionce Sin has so tainted the earth, God deemed it fit for this new beginning to have a new earth. Maybe it goes along with the saying you don't put new wine in old wineskins.

I also believe we will have new bodies, like Christ did. It won't be souls running around but new glorified bodies like Christ. Diff but recognizable like he was.




Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
The only ones that get to go into the Kingdom are the ones that know the King. You can't get in otherwise.


Which means ninety-five percent of humanity are just screwed, blued, and tattooed. Very nice.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well I'm a Christian and an avid studier and have been for years and have never even heard this version. Which Christians believe this? Where do they get this info? It's not biblical.


Sorry that is classified information. LOL I teach bible study. Think it through a bit. Every person who has not heard the word of will be judged on how they lived their lives. If they are hypocritical in their life they are doomed. if not they will be welcome. This is why Christians were charged to go forth and spread the good news of Gods salvation. Until the last passover, (Christ being the lamb of God at that passover) only Jews were offered salvation by the forgivnes of sins. Everyone else had to be judged accourding to how they lived their lives. This is the reason hypocrits were mentioned in Revalations. I would suggest you check out your bible a little more closely. According to the bible at the end times everyone who has died and gone to hell will be brought into heaven. I think you missed a few things in your study.

The rising up you speak of is the rapture and it's in 1 Thess 4:16-17 not Revelation and is only for those that are "in Christ" who will be taken up. The Christian faith does NOT teach that all go to heaven at all. The only ones that get to go into the Kingdom are the ones that know the King. You can't get in otherwise.


Sorry my brother, there is no term such as rapture in the bible. That is a term created by a British Vicker in the last century. Everyone goes to heaven according to the bible. What you are talking about is the minor problem that even though everyone gets to go to heaven not everyone gets to stay. Some will live on the new Earth, some will go to the new heaven. The only ones that burn and are tormented are the beast, satan, antichrist and the angles that followed them.

Hate to disappoint you here bud, but have you read Revelation? In that book of the bible you can see clearly the earth will be burnt up in the end but that there will be a "new" earth. The reason? Sionce Sin has so tainted the earth, God deemed it fit for this new beginning to have a new earth. Maybe it goes along with the saying you don't put new wine in old wineskins.


Not disappointed at all. In other religions the Earth dies and that is the end of the story. In the Christian belief there is a new heaven and a new earth. One without sin. Believers in the new heaven and non believers that were not hypocrits on the new Earth.

I also believe we will have new bodies, like Christ did. It won't be souls running around but new glorified bodies like Christ. Diff but recognizable like he was.


Cool!

Which means ninety-five percent of humanity are just screwed, blued, and tattooed. Very nice.


That is not exactly true. It would be easier if you read your bible to see it is not a bleek as some say it is. If you never heard the word of God then you are required by God to live as you were raised. Don't lie, cheat, steal, or whatever values of your family or tribe. The bad news is that you have heard the word of God so you can't claim that. Oh well.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
if there's gonna be an 'end of the world', my money is on the maya's real forecast of friday the 13th october, 4772. all they're expecting for 2012 is the completion of the 13th 400 year period (or b'ak'tun).
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Sounds nice Bee,

But the calander ends on 21 December 2012. Is there another one that the scholars don't know about?
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
But the calander ends on 21 December 2012. Is there another one that the scholars don't know about?


Yeah, the cycle starts over again. Kinda how when you get to the end of the year . . . you start the cycle over again with "January".

Besides, "scholars" are usually full of sh*t.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Think it through a bit. Every person who has not heard the word of will be judged on how they lived their lives. If they are hypocritical in their life they are doomed. if not they will be welcome


Where are you getting your info from? Everyone is hypocritical at some point in their lives...some more than others. So that means we're all sunk by your logic. It's not about what WE DO. It's about WHO WE KNOW.

Until the last passover, (Christ being the lamb of God at that passover) only Jews were offered salvation by the forgivnes of sins. Everyone else had to be judged accourding to how they lived their lives. This is the reason hypocrits were mentioned in Revalations. I would suggest you check out your bible a little more closely. According to the bible at the end times everyone who has died and gone to hell will be brought into heaven. I think you missed a few things in your study.


Your theology needs some work. What about Rahab the prostitute? What about Ruth? Both are included in the lineage of Christ and were commended for their faith. Neither were Jewish. I can give you more if you'd like.

Where were hypocrites mentioned in Rev? What are you talking about? Where does it say that those in hell will go to heaven? Have you read Luke 16 the rich man and the begger? Jesus point blank said there was no leaving hell. His decision or lack of decison (for Christ) was made here on earth. You need to do some checking.

I've not only studied Rev at length I took two years and taught it verse by verse.

Sorry my brother, there is no term such as rapture in the bible. That is a term created by a British Vicker in the last century. Everyone goes to heaven according to the bible


Well the word trinity is not in the bible either. So does that mean you don't believe in the trinity? We get our word rapture from the GK "harpazo" which in latin is rapare which is "caught up." This is the term used in 1 Thess 4:16-17 that I quoted earlier. Rapture is just an English word not heard of back then. You need to go back to GK and Latin. It's there, just not in English.

But the calander ends on 21 December 2012. Is there another one that the scholars don't know about?


as soon as one predicts a date, they've lost all credibility. Many have tried that and yet here we are still. There was a book out called 88 Reasons Why Christ is Coming Back in 1988. Now those 88 reasons are 88 reasons why the book is wrong.

Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
"The only ones that get to go into the Kingdom are the ones that know the King. You can't get in otherwise. "


I was seven when he died, so I missed out on the free Cadillacs, and I guess I don't go to heaven either... *sigh*

... uh... thankyuh, thankyuhvurymuch...
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
But the calander ends on 21 December 2012. Is there another one that the scholars don't know about?


apparently some of em do.

The last creation ended on a long count of 12.19.19.17.19. Another 12.19.19.17.19 will occur on December 20, 2012, and it has been discussed in many New Age articles and books that this will be the end of this creation, the next pole shift or something else entirely. However, the Maya abbreviated their long counts to just the last five vigesimal places. There was an infinite number of larger units that were usually not shown. When the larger units were shown (notably on a monument from Coba), the end of the last creation is expressed as 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0, where the units are obviously supposed to be 13s twenty places larger than that b'ak'tun. In this age we are only approaching 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0, and the larger places would all need to similarly roll over to 13 again to match the date of the new creation.[6]

This is confirmed by a date from Palenque, which projects forward in time to 1.0.0.0.0.0, which will occur on October 13, 4772 (a Friday). The Classic Period Maya likely did not believe that the end of this age would occur in 2012. According to the Maya, there will be a baktun ending in 2012, a significant event being the end of a 13th 400 year period, but not the end of the world.

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Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
was seven when he died, so I missed out on the free Cadillacs


there's still time for you to fall on your knees and proclaim:


don't matter who's been hauntin graceland, cuz bob wills is still the king
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
I was seven when he died, so I missed out on the free Cadillacs, and I guess I don't go to heaven either... *sigh*


ha, you're just a baby then....I was in HS. In fact my Aunt had tickets to go to his last concert. He was coming to our hometown that next day.

But you know Baker as well as I do which King I wuz talking about....lol...and he doesn't wear Blue Suede Shoes.



Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
he doesn't wear Blue Suede Shoes.


He just might. Who are we to judge Jesus' taste in clothes? Blue suede is, after all, dead stylish.