Old vs Young: The New Digital Divide

Darn you kids... get off my lawn!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/12/08/im.poll.ap/index.html

For some here, technologies such as Instant Messaging are a relatively recent novelty, the latest addition to a string of new technologies that have been steadily marching across our desks for over 20 years.  For others, the idea of a world without IM, without the World Wide Web, without cell phones is unimaginable.  A major digital divide is forming between current teens and their parents, with current teenagers not knowing a world before the Internet, before word processing and instant global communication.  Adults, for whom items like IM are a relatively new fad, often have trouble understanding teens dependence on technology, their surgical attachment to cell phones, and a compulsive need to check email every few minutes.

Someone who is 16 today was born in 1990, two years before the World Wide Web came about, but a full 6 years after the launch of the modern Personal Computer (the Apple Macintosh in 1984).  So for all of their life as far back as they can remember they've had the Internet, it's just something that's always been there. 

CNN talks about a recent poll conducted by the Associated Press regarding the difference in attitudes and Instant Messenger user between teens and adults.  The results?

  • Almost 3/4 of all adults who use IM still communicate via email more often.
  • Almost 3/4 of all teens use IM more than email to communicate.
  • Teens (30%) are almost twice as likely as adults (17%) to say they can't imagine life without IM

Of course, the story mentions that age doesn't mean you don't "get it" or aren't "hip to the things kids these days dig" and that many adults are embracing new technology and getting hooked.

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What's funny for me is hearing younger folks complain about their Internet connection speed. "I'm only getting 5MB down and 1MB up! This sucks!" Egads.

I'm sure many of you will recall the days of 110 & 300 baud (6.95/hour on CompuServe), when having a 1200 or 2400 modem meant you were FILTHY RICH and could pay the 12.95/hour rate
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We had a party-line phone service and a wooden telephone box on the wall with a crank. All the neighbors were connected to a central operator who connected us when we turned the crank for our personal ring-style. We were assigned "one-long-and-two-short". If that sounded on the phone you picked it up, it was for you.
This is different.
Reply #3 Top

Eeee when I were a lad we only had a 17" B&W tv and we ate bread and dripping sandwiches.

The lucky few had technology in the form of a Hoover - the rest of us had to use a Bex Bissell...

Young 'uns today...sigh... The only thing they have to remember is in a few years time they are the ones who will be behind the times   

Reply #4 Top
Aye, y'buy 'em books, send 'em to school, teach 'em everything y'know...and they still don't get it ehh, whadda ya gonna do?
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Hey freezjeans I remember having a 2400 and we were cool because of it... I never really gave much thought that my nieces (now 10)have always heard of the internet and such... hum... when I was thier age playing 'pac man' on an atari was high tech.
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The only thing that counts is that you keep your mind open. For some reason when people get older they seem to shut that out. That's why younger people have an easier time with technology. Their minds are open. That's all ya gotta do! Dab-Namb-It!

Reply #7 Top
I'm not young enough to know everything...   
Reply #8 Top
I think this is just a little disengenious (spelling?) because kids have a lot more time on their hands and text messaging, when being interupted doesn't matter is fine. Us adults do not want to be interrupted by our phone beeping every 5 minutes and therefore e-mail (things that don't have to be right now) is a better venue of communication. Imagine trying to get work done as a project manager when you have 10 departments needing your time. You think text messaging is the right communication venue? Articles like these are "cute" but really don't put the substance of their numbers into real world situations. My take, the reason we have...

Almost 3/4 of all adults who use IM still communicate via email more often.
Almost 3/4 of all teens use IM more than email to communicate.

is not because we don't embrace the technology, it's because we use the technology when appropriate in our lives and do teens. Remember, our "lives" are much different.
Reply #9 Top
I think Rich has a point.. I don't usually us my IM given I wouldn't get much work done if I did. Actually, I use IM less than I use my IRC (which is nearly every morning and some evenings), I wonder what the #'s would be for IRC and/or if they count that as a 'form' of IM.
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I'm not young enough to know everything...


And I'm too old to know nothing.....so with an open mind to all this new fangled technology, I'm prepared to learn how to use it to my better advantage. I don't IM a lot cos I'm always too busy on WC....and no bugger's gonna interrupt that!!

I never ever send text messages....don't own a phobile mone and never will. Emails and the house phone are my primary communication tools to the outside world....which is what's available to the outside world if it wants to talk with me. And if people don't like it/can't come to my door, then they obviously didn't wanna talk to me that badly and can bugger off.
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we are all just tubes, putting things in at one end, and expelling them from the other
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we are all just tubes, putting things in at one end, and expelling them from the other


Trust you to go off topic with a trip down memory lane regarding your mischievous pea shooter days at school.....and when you put 'things in one end' of people's downpipes so the rain got expelled at the wrong end and overflowed their gutters.

Now for my own on/off topic comment/thought. Given that the abacus was the IN school calculator when I was a lad, and record players still had wind up handles on the side, and I could see how those things worked, I often find modern technology does not follow the same kind of logic. For example, the start button on my old record player made the record play, but on computers you gotta push the start button to stop/turn it off.

Okay, that's a simplistic way of putting it, but in so many modern appliances, particularly in computing, the buttons don't always behave as described/named and do not always do/perform as expected....and it can be quite a steep learning curve when adapting from mechanical devices that followed the laws of physics to electronic devices whose characterisics can seem quite illogical as they work within different perameters and use descriptions/terms that had alternative meanings 30 years or so ago....then there's all these new fangled words you'd never have found in a dictionary just 10 -20 years ago.

I suppose that's the difference between the younger and older generations: the young uns are born with it, are taught it at school, use it for recreation and work, while us older folk are still identifying with the steam engine, push mowers and the pick and shovel.
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I think this is just a little disengenious (spelling?)

'disingenuous' .... Spell checker

I'm 52...and have embraced just about all forms of 'modern trickery', though still managed to have NEVER sent a text message...and my life is no poorer for it.

Almost 3/4 of all adults who use IM still communicate via email more often.
Almost 3/4 of all teens use IM more than email to communicate.
Teens (30%) are almost twice as likely as adults (17%) to say they can't imagine life without IM

All sounds a little 'twee'....eg 'Almost 3/4 of all adults who use IM still communicate via email more often - than what?....a fish?....

How about....

30% of adults are clever enough to see the vague and rash generalizations within the typical vox-pop.....

Reply #15 Top
It would seem that it is symptom of basic technological evolution.

For the people who were teenagers before the birth of the cell phone and Internet:

IM = Land-line phone
E-mail = Postal mail

For the people who are teenagers after the birth of the cell phone and Internet:

Land-line phone = IM
Postal mail = E-mail

I think I now understand why society as a whole seems to be in a rush to complete the daily projects. We have allowed the electronic information system to affect our sense of timing.

I am not sure that is such a good thing.   
Reply #16 Top

I think I now understand why society as a whole seems to be in a rush to complete the daily projects. We have allowed the electronic information system to affect our sense of timing.

When Alexander Graham Bell invented the first telephone....it was utterly and totally useless....until he created the second.

The "BEST THING" © about Mobile [Cell] Phones is they have an OFF button.

Go on, use it.....it doesn't bite....

Reply #17 Top
Interesting...I'm just a little south of 50. I think I'm up on Web 1.x.

But some of this "Web 2.0" stuff has me scratching my head. For instance, I am 100% baffled by del.li.cious (sp?).

But yeah, I know IM at least, and can also send SMS messages with my cell phone. I can even use some of the shorthand.

As for mowers...when I was a kid, my parents had a gas mower. I wasn't allowed to use it because it was considered dangerous and too difficult to start, not that I was complaining. But when we visited my grandparents in the summer, guess who was drafted to help with their push mower on a small (to an adult) patch of grass around a big fir tree?
Reply #18 Top
Right on, Jafo & nightbirdsf...I'm a wee younger (38) but always enjoy hearing other old school testimonies Web 2.0? Bah! The first time I ever felt connected to the world was CompuServe, chatting and playing games with people across the country (until the bill came, at least)
Reply #19 Top
I am 34.

5 years ago, I retired my gas mower and picked up a new push mower.

It's not that much work (if you keep up with the lawn), it cuts the grass very well, and it's quiet.

Using it to "skin" the yard is a pleasant experience. I wouldn't trade it for teh world.
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Go on, use it.....it doesn't bite


Truth be told, my cell phone is off about 23 hours per day.   
Reply #21 Top

Truth be told, my cell phone is off about 23 hours per day.


Mine's still at the store....and it can stay there.....

And yes, they do bite....they bite yer in tha arse when the bill comes in...

That's why mine remains at the store and will continue to do so.


Me and a mate at the pub...his missus rings his mobile and he's in deep doo-doo for being there (background noise gave him away)...

My missus rings the pub cos I don't got no steenkin phobile mone....."Nope, he ain't here lady, shall I get him to call you IF he pops in?"

Reply #22 Top
Bah! The first time I ever felt connected to the world was CompuServe, chatting and playing games with people across the country (until the bill came, at least)


(Heh, took me a while to figure out how to quote part of a message: select and then click on "Quote.")

"My name is Nightbird and I am a dataholic." I have to confess that the CompuServe bills destroyed my credit rating.
Reply #23 Top
Being only 17, I guess I am one of the 'young uns' that are being spoken of lol . Clearly I have a computer if I am posting here. I do not however have a cell phone, mp3 player, or the like. I still use the land line phone (mainly cause I don't have a cell, and my parents pay the land line bills ) and I like it. I still use postal mail when I want to make something more personal for certain people.

I use IM all the time, and I use email all the time also. Its a whole lot cheaper to talk to people in the UK (from Canada btw) than calling/postal.

I'm sure when 'my generation' reaches the age limits some of you are all at, technology will once again of changed. I remember being in school ('94 ish?) and having teachers/adults go on about how in the 2000's we'd have all this high tech crap like flying cars, jet packs, and lasers and stuff lol. Well... we don't (to the extent they went to ).

I guess I'm just saying that technology progresses as the need (or desire actually) is required. Why pay phone bills when you can chat all around the world on skype or something for a hell of a lot less? Or send postal when you can email for near free? Why pay multiple bills for all these things when you can pay 1 bill for internet.

It just kinda makes sense to me... then again, I grew up with this stuff.

(And 12.95/h for Internet... omg. Thank god thats changed now )