You're not very compassionate..

..no, I'm not.

A couple of years ago I wrote this blog about my own personal origins. In various debates on JU I know I come across as a total jerk. And there is a reason for that -- I am a jerk.  I'm not proud of being a jerk, it's just something I've come to realize over the years.  There are worse things than being a jerk though.

But what exactly is a jerk? A jerk, like most epitaphs, is someone who is not conforming to some rule of our society.  As a society, we have an unwritten set of rules of how people are supposed to behave.  I think a lot of people, especially men, are jerks. The difference is that most people have the good grace to at least try not to act like a jerk.

And I do try to not be a jerk most of the time and indeed, I'm not a jerk most of the time. If I'm around people I care about I'm willing to invest the effort to be a better person.  I think many people can relate to that -- more than would care to relate.  I know plenty of men and women that are cranky and impatient but do their best to soldier forth and not bite the heads off people.

But when I deal with strangers, I...just...don't...care. 

Being a jerk isn't about being malicious to strangers. When I play games on-line I never grief. I'll even go out of my way when playing RTSs to make sure the other person is having a good time. Being a jerk doesn't mean I'm not empathic. And I enjoy, for whatever reason, making sure other people, even strangers, have a good time when they're playing a game with me. So I'm not really being nice as a selfless act, I'm not because I like being nice to strangers.  I'm selfish. Self involved.

Being self involved is the essence of being a jerk. Or, I should say, being self involved and not having the good graces to conform to social expectations.

The inner jerk really comes out online.  If someone annoys me on my personal blog, I'll blacklist them.  I see people on JU all the time take holier than thou views about not blacklisting people. To me, those people just seem weak. But whatever. When I'm on my personal blog, it's all about me.  I'll happily debate someone who has very different views. A lot of my good friends are very left-wing and I enjoy their company. It's not about people agreeing with me, it's about having people who can intelligently discuss a subject and show some level of respect.

The older I get and the more I read, the more contempt I have for the average participant in on-line debates.  I understand most people are uninformed on issues and that most people are not very sharp. That's fine. But I have little patience for those same people who then choose to debate on some particular issue, especially politics. Debates on politics require some knowledge on history. And most people who debate politics can't be bothered to read history and that I find incredibly annoying.

And so, as a jerk, I am pretty candid about what I think about people's opinions.  There are a lot of people woh are just plain losers. And nice people don't resort to thinking other people are losers. But the fact is, lots of people are losers. Not most people mind you. If you randomly select someone, odds are you'll find they're a good and decent person. But it seems today we live in a climate in which it is impolite to acknowledge anyone as being a "loser".  To  many people, life is about unearned self-esteem rather than achievement.

Jerks, being self involved, don't tend to have endless compassion for strangers. I certainly don't.  I care not at all for people who don't work. If they're disabled -- truly disabled -- then I support helping them. But other people, no, could care less. They could starve.  Whether that be the third generation welfare mother with 4 out of wedlock children or the 40 year old drunk who can't hold a job.   I don't hold any malice towards these people. I don't want them to starve or be on the streets. No, it's just that I don't care if they are.  The gazelle who runs for its life and still gets killed by the lion I can have compassion for.  The gazelle that just sits there looking at the lion coming at them I don't have compassion for. Natural selection.

I have little patience for class envy either.  Someone being richer than me doesn't hurt me at all. Class envy is a symptom of being a loser. If you are jealous of the possessions other people have, then grow up and get a life and a clue. It's just pathetic when someone sits around moaning about "the rich". It's pretty rare to meet an American who grew up poorer than I did. But I never felt envious of people who had more material things than me. How does their wealth hurt me? Good for them I always felt.

I'm "rich" by any definition of the term but I didn't get there by being ruthless or money grubbing. I got there through the voluntary choices of literally millions of people who exchanged their money for the goods and services I produced.  So when I hear someone say that I should be doing "more" to help those in "need" I tend to have very little compassion.  The reason being that I resent compassion being measured in what PERCENT of my income I hand out rather than the raw total.  But that's a different topic.  The pont is, "rich" people don't become rich in this country at the point of a gun.  And money isn't everything. Too many people get fixated on money and it is ususally to their detriment.

Arrogance is another ingredient of being a jerk. And I'm really arrogant.  But again, the older I get, the more I realize that yea, I really do know a lot more than most people on the topics I participate in. And as a jerk, I just don't have the good grace to be polite or patient with people so I'm arrogant.  That isn't to say that I think I'm particularly intelligent or knowledgeable on all issues. I simply pick and choose what I want to talk about.

Another thing about being an arrogant, uncompassionate, self-involved jerk is that you make conclusions on people and can quickly decide whether what they think matters. And when I say "matters" I mean it in a specific sense (i.e. I believe everyone have the right to speak their opinion so in that sense it matters).

For example, a lot of the equivicators on the war on terror or taxes or whatever topic is being discussed don't matter. Their opinions are worthless. People who don't take a stand or have no firm principles don't matter in the real world. They're either working for the government in some way or they're probably some low level drone somewhere. Not always, but usually (20 years of experience in dealing with these kinds of people talking here). 

Having strong opinions or taking stands on issues or making decisions may not lead to success, but not taking a clear position and not making decisions leads to nowhere.  The world is run by people who make decisions.  You can tell people who don't make decisions because they're the ones who scream out about stereotyping or generalizing. People who make decisions know you have to generalize to get things done (right or wrong). So the instant I see someone screaming about generalizing  I know that that person's opinion is irrelevant and can be discounted.

To conclude this rambling essay. Being a jerk doesn't necessarily involve malice. I can't think of any people here on JU or elsewhere that I "dislike".  Not a single person.

I can't think of anyone or anything in this world that I "hate".  Being a jerk isn't about hating or disliking things. Quite the opposite, it's about apathy for me. I just don't care about things as much as society deems we should care (or more accurately, as much as people are supposed to pretend to care).

I believe the best system is the system in which we help each other by doing what is in our own best interest.  So while I'm not proud that I'm a jerk, I don't think me being a jerk harms anyone and in fact has helped people. I don't spend energy worrying about strangers. I spend energy producing. And by producing, I help people because of the nature of our system.  But I don't really care either way that that is the outcome. ;)

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This is pretty darn good Draginol.

I think I feel the same way, and as you define it, I too am a jerk.

At the moment, I feel like I'm losing the game as well, but I haven't quite lost yet It's just as you say, you can't be a winner without motivation. You know, come to think about things, jerks can at time be the best motivators.

I like the statement concerning your apathetic feeling toward those you don't know. I feel the same, and I don't thnk it's uncommon.

I don't know what the heck I'm writing here, but this article, along with the upcoming holidays have motivated me a bit more. It's easy to become less motivated when one is depressed, or face it, feeling sorry for oneself and its certainly refreshing to feel the spark of life under ones butt again.

Thanks for the insightful read. Now excuse me while I do something with that burn on my rear-end.
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I read this article and the one you linked.  I understand some of the statements I've seen you make here on JU better.

So after reading all that I guess the only questions I have are...Are you teaching your children a sense of compassion?  Do you want them to grow up to be just like you in regards to compassion?

I want my kids to be compassionate, but not victims of their compassion.  That's a hard one to balance tho.

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Being a jerk doesn't necessarily involve malice.

I think that says a lot.  Jerks dont go out of their way to hurt people or be mean, they just dont think about the other person.  And yes, we can all be jerks at various points in our lives.  Just dont be the one who pulls out in front of 55mph moving traffic doing 20mph.

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What a jerk

But I can relate.


I'm one of those losers in the Great Game of Life, but I don't point the finger of blame at others. Stuff happens and you deal with it. Period. As for the "rich folk", meh. Good for them. I wouldn't mind having more income, but I make do.
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The reason being that I resent compassion being measured in what PERCENT of my income I hand out rather than the raw total.


I think that's a Christian thing...

Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts. 42But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins,[j]worth only a fraction of a penny.[k]

43Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. 44They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything—all she had to live on." (Mark 12)


Not that Jesus knew anything about economics. Or wealth for that matter -- Nietzsche got pretty close when he said Christianity was a religion for slaves. He was a passionate advocate of being a jerk. I think deep down that's where your philosophy comes from.

Sometimes I wonder how, given that jerkdom leads to success and experiencing success justifies jerkdom (like you said, it makes you arrogant), how the world ever got to this state where large numbers of people do subscribe to compassion and letting everybody's opinion count, and the jerks have to let them.

This is a very articulate, honest, and self-aware look at a typical upper-class attitude. A lot of elites hold these kind of views but feel they have to pander in public. I'd like to argue, but I don't know where I could find any moral common ground because hey, I have a slave morality. I'll just take this as yet another example that hey, the people who run the world are always going to feel that they deserve to run it and I don't, that having the power to make decisions makes them important and me not, that they don't owe me anything and think they do enough just by playing their part in the system. All valid points of view, but it doesn't help me shake any of that "class envy."
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So after reading all that I guess the only questions I have are...Are you teaching your children a sense of compassion? Do you want them to grow up to be just like you in regards to compassion?
I want my kids to be compassionate, but not victims of their compassion. That's a hard one to balance tho.

It's tough to find the right balance.

I'm not really teaching my children compassion per se as much as I'm trying to teach them empathy from which I think compassion can come.  I think a lot of time people have compassion for faceless "victims" because they haven't had first hand experience with the "victims" to discover how much of their situation was self-inflicted.

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Not that Jesus knew anything about economics. Or wealth for that matter -- Nietzsche got pretty close when he said Christianity was a religion for slaves. He was a passionate advocate of being a jerk. I think deep down that's where your philosophy comes from.

I haven't read Nietzche so I doubt my philosophy came from him.  I think the way I am is a combination of genetics and life experiences. I certainly didn't read some book or essay and say "Aha! That's how I'll be."

I'll just take this as yet another example that hey, the people who run the world are always going to feel that they deserve to run it and I don't, that having the power to make decisions makes them important and me not, that they don't owe me anything and think they do enough just by playing their part in the system. All valid points of view, but it doesn't help me shake any of that "class envy."

What I'd say is that the meek might inherit the earth but not until the rest of us are done with it.  The power to make decisions is not based on wealth. The power to make decisions is what leads to the path of success.  Those who don't make decisions will be pased by by people who do.

Compassion, to me, is empty without productive action. Who has done more good? Junk bond king Michael Milken or Mother Theresa? Answer: Michael Milken BY FAR.

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I haven't read Nietzche so I doubt my philosophy came from him.


i'd say if you haven't read him you don't know if your philosophy came from him. Like how we all say "all's well that ends well" and "dead as a doornail" without knowing it came from Shakespeare.

Half of the time I agree with you about Michael Milken, and the other half I think, "Look how much more he could have done if he'd had half the good motivations of Mother Teresa." For example Bill Gates helped give me the platform to type this message on, but he never would have helped any Africans that way. In my personal life this translates to having about equal amounts of guilt that I don't give more to charity and that I don't get a better job. They'd both help.
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1) I'm thrilled that I happened to come upon this article. I relate completely. I've learned over time not to get involved in political debates, since a) I don't know what I'm talking about and b) I don't really care that much, but philosophically and theologically I frequent find myself in the same corner of the ring.

2) I feel obligated to defend Christianity here. The "widow's mite" was not valuable because it was 100% of her net worth, but because she considered the kingdom of God more important than her own livelihood. It is important here to note that this philosophy would be a foolish one if the same bible didn't indicate that what is given to the kingdom comes back tenfold. In other words, she was acting in her own interest.

Or maybe she was going for the pity vote. You never know with those bible characters.

Dan
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When religious conservatives support Social Darwinism I find it very hypocritical but you’re an agnostic conservative and a proponent of evolution so that makes it ok

I’m an evolutionist who’s not a proponent of Social Darwinism. I believe however we came to be we have become more than the sum of our biological parts. I believer we are now in control of our own evolution and will eventually shed all of our instincts, our last tie to our animal heritage.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, I when I’m called that as an insult. The ability to truly see things from a stranger’s point of view and to empathize is IMHO more evolved. We will not survive without an evolved sense of empathy. The idea that mutually assured destruction will work forever is folly, some fool will eventually think they’ve gained the upper hand and it will all end.

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I think someone in your position have to have this attitude or risk having some emotional breakdown, Draginol. I used to think of people like you as jerks, but I've come to understand why it is advantageous to face the world the way you do. Too many people in this world let their emotions do the thinking (I'm one of those, yes), it would be better to sometimes put aside emotion and think reasonably.
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Too many people in this world let their emotions do the thinking

Very true Raven! Rand said, "When it's a decision between your heart and your mind, always choose your mind." Of course, how many of us actually follow that advice? Not always me.

Oh, and Draginol...I never liked you.

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Early in my blogging career, I was proud of maintaining a small blacklist. And even now my "running" blacklist is still rather small. But I'm a lot less hesitant to pull the switch than I was at one time. I've found it has made for a more pleasant overall blogging experience, personally. But I digress.

I KNOW I'm a jerk, as well. But, then again, I've met a lot of people in the real world who are bigger jerks than myself, but are totally clueless to that fact. Personally, I would take being a self aware jerk over being an ignorant a**hole anyday.

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I agree LW, while I personally dislike Gates' business practices as they have historically been less than ethical and borderline illegal, the man and his wife have contributed a ton of money to charities around the world and has to be given credit for that.
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Yeah, some of that money may have been taken through the suffering of others (I'm not wholly convinced on that point), but at least it's being redirected fairly rapidly into worthy causes.

Very true Raven! Rand said, "When it's a decision between your heart and your mind, always choose your mind." Of course, how many of us actually follow that advice? Not always me.


I've never liked Rand. She sacrificed her humanity to efficiency and her heart to logic. I think you should always follow your conscience first, and if it has nothing to say then follow your heart. It may make more sense to follow the mind, but what value is sense if by obeying it you abandon the possibility of a new experience?
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Rand said, "When it's a decision between your heart and your mind, always choose your mind."


Very good death-promoting philosophy as usual.

If, for example, female mammals would follow that advise, human such included, there would be no next generation.

The mind would tell them that donating time and resources to carrying another individual is a stupid thing to do, if personal survival is the ultimate goal.

People like Rand can choose their mind because other people do not. But how great is it to depend on the kindness of others, really?

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Yeah, some of that money may have been taken through the suffering of others (I'm not wholly convinced on that point), but at least it's being redirected fairly rapidly into worthy causes.

Define worthy cause.  

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little-whip, I left the exact opposite impression with you than I meant. I picked Gates for my example precisely because he's the anti-Michael Milken, the guy who helped people by bringing great products to market and took the money from that and helped the people that markets just don't help. I think of Gates as America's Mother Teresa, so much I didn't think of expanding my sentence to say "he made Windows, but he never would have helped any Africans that way [, the way he will with his foundation.] Sorry for the misunderstanding. I need to be clearer.

In my ideal world, all Americans would behave like Bill Gates as much as they could. In the real world, I'll accept capitalism as the best way to get the jerks to do something helpful to society out of their own self-interest. But in my personal life I make about $30,000 a year and give about $5,000 to charities like WaterAid. I might be doing something useful to society on the supply side by producing goods and services, but that's not my entire moral responsibility. I also interact with capitalism on the demand side, and I can either use my money to send market signals saying, "Entrepreneurs, figure out a way I can give my pets Internet access," or, "Entrepreneurs, figure out a way to build a water pump that Africans will be able to maintain."

That's one thing about Michael Milken, when you only help on the supply side you're really just acting out the moral whims of others. It's like being Jesus if people all only prayed for him to wash their limos instead of feeding the five thousand.
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If that widow had really expected to get her two mites back tenfold, I don't think she would deserve any praise at all. It's not a moral decision at all then, it's just an investment. Morality is about doing the opposite of what would naturally be better for you.

Which is why any statement of the form, "That's the way it should be. It's natural selection," makes no sense. If there's a should involved, the way things would happen on their own anyway has nothing to do with it.
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Morality is about doing the opposite of what would naturally be better for you.


Not quite. Morality is doing what's right whether it's what is better for you or not.

Splitting hairs perhaps, but more accurate. Sometimes doing the "right thing" can also be the thing that's best for you personally.
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Define worthy cause.


'A cause designed to improve the lot of humanity as a whole' would do. The Gates' funding of research into AIDS and literacy makes humanity as a whole better off because it improves the chances of genius being found and fostered to maturity.
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Sometimes doing the "right thing" can also be the thing that's best for you personally.


But the more it is, the less moral weight your decision gets. Feeding your own children is good, but not as good as feeding the same number of children who aren't related to you. Buying a raffle ticket is good, but not as good as just giving the dollar unasked.

'A cause designed to improve the lot of humanity as a whole'


Windows improved the lot of humanity as a whole, so this definition is really all about the word "designed." Your intent matters, maybe even more than your effectiveness.

I'd restrict the really worthy causes to "things that will relieve suffering, not just make content people better off." Opera and laptops are nice, but they don't really look that worthy when the same dollars could be spent to kill Guinea worm or cancer or something.
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Windows improved the lot of humanity as a whole, so this definition is really all about the word "designed."


Well yes, but poking a hole in a wall isn't exactly a sophisticated science. I'm not sure we need to fund it. People are fully capable of working it out for themselves.

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Feeding your own children is good, but not as good as feeding the same number of children who aren't related to you.


I TOTALLY disagree with this, and would further suggest that this kind of thinking leads to even MORE suffering.

People who take care of themselves and their own families are good for society because a) it's one less group of people dependent on others, freeing up resources for other people in need and b) they create a cycle of independence and productivity by raising children who learn to care and provide for themselves.

How is feeding children who aren't related to you MORE good than feeding your own children? In what way is that better?

Imagine how much poverty and suffering could be done away with if everyone simply chose to take care of themselves and those in their immediate circle of friends/family. Each family dedicated to providing for its own is one less family that will use up resources/charity that are needed by people who are fundamentally unable to provide for their own needs by no fault of their own.

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Imagine how much poverty and suffering could be done away with if everyone simply chose to take care of themselves and those in their immediate circle of friends/family. Each family dedicated to providing for its own is one less family that will use up resources/charity that are needed by people who are fundamentally unable to provide for their own needs by no fault of their own.


I totally agree. Self-reliance should be the first aim of any charity, and it will always work better if it starts close to home.