fighters

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this is a feed about fighters not carriers

after all cariers just carry fighters to the battle

in the gc universe the only way fighters would work is as an offensive weapon just like the other three

the only difference is you get to decide what it does damage wise in other words you get to arm it

thus the only thing fighters are good for is offense but then the only defense against fighters is well fighters


the way i see it is the fighters in effect become another ship in combat you can use your main gums against the fighters but that would be a waste of time


the guns for a fighter would be the same size as the tiny hull which means that the fighter would only be able to sport one or two guns and never the top of the line ie the black holes

remember fighters are ships that have no intersteller flight capabilities so that leaves out the tiny hulls becouse they can be equiped with engines well at least one

fighters would come in squads of three or what ever that means that they can be built on a planet in squadron form only


when fighters are destroyed the whole squad is destroyed


if the carrier goes down so does the fighters at the end of the battle although the pilots would/could be rescued if any friendly ships remained in the battle

ok everyone else can have their say

(sorry about any and all misspelled words)
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
this is a strange way to bump but i didn't think of this until after words

but anyone who wants carriers to increase the range of their tiny hulls is really after a tanker not a carrier and i suggested a tanker once and was fully thrashed for the idea
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
but anyone who wants carriers to increase the range of their tiny hulls is really after a tanker not a carrier and i suggested a tanker once and was fully thrashed for the idea


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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
but anyone who wants carriers to increase the range of their tiny hulls is really after a tanker not a carrier and i suggested a tanker once and was fully thrashed for the idea


But a tanker would be more of a commercial vessel, a slow and lumbering hulk with no grace, appeal, or elegance. Carriers on the other hand can have weapons, support, added logistics... and they just look so good as they arrive on the scene and unload their little "payloads of death". Ahhhhh, the glorious battles that there could be  

And to add to your original post, I am missing what you are trying to get at. What exactly is the problem with the fighters as they are? I am not trying to be condescending... just missing something (besides some brain cells)  
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
the fighters as they are aren't fighters their too big in my opionion

and if i built tankers going into a war zone you better believe they would be armed

Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
the fighters as they are aren't fighters their too big in my opionion


What are you using as your "baseline" for sizing? I understand that some people that play this game feel that the actual visualization for the tiny hull gives the impression of a one seat "fighter". I myself felt if anything, there should be maybe one or two more large size hulls, larger than the huge ones even. So I guess I am asking you what size would you make say, a defender, or even a simple one gun fighter? What size would you consider the X-Wing or Tie Fighter to be? Then where would you rate the Millenium Falcon next to those first two. I use Star Wars as a reference since I know you are familiar with the ships.
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
my baseline is that they are big enough for an intersteller engine

the mel falcon is a meduim ship

if you have an intersteller engine then you have an engine crew if you have an engine crew then you have a flight crew

i would rate a tiny hull to that of a bomber ie b-17
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
What do you have against the shift key, punctuation and paragraphs?
Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
my baseline is that they are big enough for an intersteller engine


I haven't tried out the mods thing yet, from what I've read about Kryo's hull mod, you can tweak to get a unit that meets your general impression of fighters with a carrier. If you're interested in more than "special effects," then I suspect this should be a reply in the sticky for carrier talk.
Reply #9 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
probable but as i said this is about fighters not carriers and i am open to other ideas.

as far as shift and whatever i am pretty lazy but at least i don't post on others manors or spelling
Reply #10 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
s far as shift and whatever i am pretty lazy but ***at least*** i don't post on others manors or spelling


Good for you. You are contributing to the demise of humanity with your pathetic excuse for mental weakness.

Writing happens to be our mode of communication. When you do it right, people pay attention to your ideas.

Reply #11 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Morning Wheeloffire.  Nice to see you at it bright and early!  
Reply #12 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Morning, Evil. I tried playing nice for a week and then the entire "recent posts" section became illegible. Somebody needs to enforce literacy around here.

Reply #13 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Writing happens to be our mode of communication. When you do it right, people pay attention to your ideas.

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On a not quite so mean side-note, I did completely ignore the original post in this thread after about the second sentence due to the lack of punctuation and capitalization.
Reply #14 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
my baseline is that they are big enough for an intersteller engine


I am not sure what "engine" the X-Wing uses, but I seem to remember that the ship could "jump", couldn't it? And as far as the Millenium Falcon, there was a two man crew and the ship was capable of lightspeed... again, I am not sure I am following what you mean about the hull sizing of fighters. It seems that you are looking at the wrong side of the scaling tree. The larger ships NEED TO BE LARGER. Then those with fighter sizing issues should be happy once more.  
Reply #15 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Bah, I didn't hightlight his badges yet it still managed to quote them in my post. :/ Then, when I click 'edit' to rectify the issue, it says "Welcome Draknost! You don't have permission to access that page, guest! Please sign in, Draknost!" >.< WTF?
Reply #16 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Once somebody else makes a reply, you can no longer edit.
Reply #17 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
----Good for you. You are contributing to the demise of humanity with your pathetic excuse for mental weakness----

actually my little fingers don't work to well on the keyboard. which is why i try to put a space between thoughts.

i believe it was the tie fighter that vader was flying. and remember it wasn't as heavily armed as the other fighters were. it worked better becouse vader was a better flyer than the other fighters were. if i remember right when they were attacked by the fighters at the destroyed planet. the comment was that they couldn't have gotten that far without a carrier/ship.

and the tiny ships had to have booster engines to go as far as they could and they weren't armed except for maybe small weapons for protection from astroids.

and the mel falcon was a frieghter, and it required at least three crew to use the weapons on board and fly it.

i started this feed to talk about fighters. i have made a gigantic scale ship. i am trying to make a fighter class ship too. but i am having trouble getting it to work. i have asked for help and have gotten some. but could use some more if anyone wants my specs and gigantic let me know.

as for the grammer lessions can we put that in another feed. if not oh well.

and yes i know you can have a man ship even on my gigantic ship but it doesn't have to be. that is the same with the tiny hull. i assume a crew of

tiny 10
small 20
medium 100
large 400
huge 1000
gigantic 2000








Reply #18 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Tiny 10? Like all 10 people in the TIE fighters?

Chop a zero off every class.
Reply #19 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
if i remember right when they were attacked by the fighters at the destroyed planet. the comment was that they couldn't have gotten that far without a carrier/ship.


This is correct but I am refering to the X-Wing. It seemed to have lightspeed/hyperspace/warp drive, whatever you want to call it. It was a one man vessel (two if you count the droid). My point is that it was a small fighter that could make the lightspeed jump, would that not classify it as "interplanetary travel"? So if I am right, then why are you assuming that a tiny hulled craft should have a ten man crew? It seems your basis for argument is solely on engine size, is this correct? I know what you are trying to do, and realize that I am not helping your cause, but as someone who likes to think he has a handle on ship design, and not just for this game, your position is puzzling me.
Reply #20 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Tiny 10? Like all 10 people in the TIE fighters?

Chop a zero off every class.


Am I missing something Wheel? You seem to be following this one, what is the bottom line? I know it's a trivial thing but where these size figures come from is baffling to me. Can you shed some light on my position before I drive my head through my monitor?  
P.S. And I do mean danielost's numbers, not what I quoted from you.
Reply #21 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
ok obviosly my figuares are wrong and yours are right and you can put two jump engine and 3 guns and 4 defense on a tiny hull and still call it a fighter and it only takes one crew to operate the whole thing


so that means that it only takes 1 to operate any class ship in this game for the same reason

and the xwing had a booster extrinal engine which it undocked from when it landed on the planet

sorry about spelling
Reply #22 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
which means that the x-wing did not have a intersteller engine placed on the fighter but to the booster which then made the craft a lot bigger
Reply #23 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I don't remember any "booster" engines for the X-Wing. I guess I know what I'll be watching at some point this weekend.
Reply #24 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
---For hyperspace transit, the X-wing is equipped with an Incom GBk-585 motivator HCU (hyperspace control unit). The motivators on each engine provide a class one performance---

ok looks like i was wrong on the star drive but it only has enough supplies for one week or in gc terms one turn which might get around a star system but not to the next one in most cases


if it needs to go farther that is the sled is for
Reply #25 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
and the mel falcon was a frieghter, and it required at least three crew to use the weapons on board and fly it.

No, it doesn't.

It requires a single pilot to fly it, and a gunner for each 'occupied' turret.

The crew compliment was normally just Solo and Chewy.