Mubarak: Arabs Hate U.S. More Than Ever

Oh, really? And how do you think we feel about you?

Quoted, in part, of a Reuters news story:

PARIS (Reuters) - Arabs in the Middle East hate the United States more than ever following the invasion of Iraq and Israel's assassination of two Hamas leaders, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said in comments published Tuesday.

Mubarak, who visited the United States last week, told French newspaper Le Monde that Washington's actions had caused despair, frustration and a sense of injustice in the Arab world.

"Today there is hatred of the Americans like never before in the region," he said in an interview given during a stay in France, where he met President Jacques Chirac Monday.


He blamed the hostility partly on U.S. support for Israel, which assassinated Hamas leader Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi in a missile strike in the Gaza Strip Saturday weeks after killing his predecessor, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.


"At the start some considered the Americans were helping them. There was no hatred of the Americans. After what has happened in Iraq, there is unprecedented hatred and the Americans know it," Mubarak said.


"People have a feeling of injustice. What's more, they see (Israeli Prime Minister Ariel) Sharon acting as he pleases, without the Americans saying anything. He assassinates people who don't have the planes and helicopters that he has."


Israel says such killings are self-defense. But Mubarak said the assassination of Rantissi could have "serious consequences" and that instability in Gaza and Iraq would not serve U.S. or Israeli interests.

"The despair and feeling of injustice are not going to be limited to our region alone. American and Israeli interests will not be safe, not only in our region but anywhere in the world," he said.



You know, this brand of saber rattling is getting to be a real pain in the ass. First, let's set some things straight:

A) Holding a Palestinian passport within the Arab world basically puts you at the amoeba level on the Arab food chain. You're nothing. You aren't allowed passage into other Arab countries. You can't receive medical care. You're an untouchable; ostracized by the very people who then use your name and plight for bemoaning the injustices of the U.S. and Israel. What has Egypt done to change this? Nothing.

B) What the hell has Egypt done to facilitate peace along the Gaza strip other than churn out blind hard-line, hate-mongering Muslim clerics at a mind-boggling rate? Nothing. Nada. Zip.

C) When has Mubarak ever joined a front of moderate Muslims to decry the senseless and inflammatory nature of suicide bombings run by Hamas? When has that same front ever called for the Palestinian government to raise a hand to the terrorists in their midst? Again, if you're keeping count, never (mostly because there doesn't seem to be such a thing as moderate Muslims willing to take a stand against even the most extreme in their midst).

I believe Mubarak is scared. Scared that what countries and their leaders are unwilling to deal with, the U.S. will, especially along the lines of turning a blind eye to terrorists and their ilk. So, when you shrug your shoulders because some hometown kid was brainwashed by some hard-line religious zealot posing as a schoolteacher into blowing up himself and twenty of the nearest bus passengers, you start to look over your shoulder. And you try to gain support by acting as the populist: Ranting and raving like you have an idea of what the hell is going on.

Regardless of what kind of diplomacy the U.S. tries, we'll never be loved by the Arab nations. Heck, the Arab nations don’t even love each other, and it really shouldn't change the nature of what we do. I'm not saying the U.S. is right in everything it does. There are so many different levels to what is actually happening when foreign policy is scripted, it's almost best that you try not to think about it. But, I do believe, that common thugs, when they wrap their half-baked thoughts of what is right and wrong in the world and wrap a religion around it, and then decide to kill off a few thousand Americans, well, that shit has got to stop, and I could care less what a multi-generational syphilis-carrying camel fucker has to say about it.
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Good posting. I think we should divest ourselves of Israel and its war-making policies. We do ourselves no favor by making ourselves appear the supporter of the worlds anathema. Any objective look shows our problems relate to our facile attitude towards Israel's crimes, with Israel not even caring what happens to its supporters. Tell me someone, how many Israelis are dying and being maimed in Afghanistan or Iraq ? We are being ill-used, we know it, and just have to get over the inevitable accusation that we are anti-semitic - as in hate Arabian people? - and do what is right as humans. We gain nothing by supporting or endorsing the ideology that Jews are genetically superior and have a right from God to kill, any more than we can oppose the Moslem for the same archaic belief system.

Without regard to the Egyptian, or other view, we shoud do what is morally and historically right. It will save us a few billion in foreign aid, per year, which is then usable for our own Citizens here too. Where are the 'fiscal conservatives' when you show this simple logic; being led down the primrose path to...
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Our handling of Israel is akin to the treatment of the ill-tempered nephew at the family business: He's a jerk, everybody knows it, it's bad for business, but the uncle doesn't do much other than a few soothing words now and then to hopefully placate him.

It doesn't help, though, to think that if we don't support Israel in some fashion, that we're letting the whole country turn into the festering boil that nearly every Arab country has become.

Your point about Israeli reciprocity is quite correct.

The real question which drives foreign policy is: If we do nothing...if we become something of a island nation, what long-term problems are we setting ourselves up for that we couldn't solve by not being somewhat marginally involved? It's a difficult question. On one hand, we're a busybody--with our nose in everyone's business. Settling civil squabbles, giving out money where we think it gives us the most political leverage, propping up a dictactor or twelve. We get wind of bigger problems before they spin too far out of control. Backdoor deals allow us to send in a couple of strike forces to "creatively deal" with "special situations."

On the other hand, if we stay out of the idea of nation-building, we save a lot of money and a bunch of American lives.

Do the crazies leave us alone? Could we have the same economic influence if we become something of a Switzerland in these arenas? I don't know. I really don't.