Glorifying Recreational Drug Use!

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I've met some new people this week. As many of you know I am not really a social butterfly. I am more like a social slug. This isn't really down to an inability to get along with people, it is more down to the fact that I don't want too. I know that sounds awful, but I'm really not a people person. I like to have a close circle of friends, and people I trust, and I'm not really bothered about anyone else. I hate people phoning me all the time, people asking me to go out places all the time, and just general mithering. I prefer to be left alone, and when I want to do something, I will, without getting pushed and pulled in a million different directions. That's just me. I like my own company. I think some people think it makes me really miserable, but I don't agree. Not everyone can be the same. Anyway, I am getting off topic here. This week, I have made an effort with the new people I have met. To be that little social butterfly that everyone seems to want me to be. It was going pretty well. For like a day or so. Ha.

So I met these new people, and for the most part they were very nice. Obviously there is going to be exceptions to the rules, and I am fully prepared for dealing with people like that. I'll actually go as far as to say I liked these people. They shared a similar sense of humour to me, something that I consider to be very important, and I could talk to them quite easily. So everything was going well. There is about 8 people in this group of people. All of them a similar age to me. Most had done the whole going to uni thing, and studying, and by all accounts they had partied pretty hard during this time. Again, that's not really my thing, but each to their own. I understand that partying goes hand in hand with going to uni for alot of people. So when conversations turned to such things I just didn't really participate, and it wasn't a problem.

However, the converstation turned to drug taking, and what kinds of drugs people had taken on nights out and so on. Now I have a real problem with drugs. I hate them, and I will never ever take them. Now I realise that my position on drug taking is biased because of the bad experiences I have seen people I care about go through with them. I know that not everyones drug takings reaches them limits, and there are some people who can do it on a weekend, and that's it, and it just adds to whatever they are doing. Again, it might not be the most sensible of decisions on their part, but it is their choice, and they will have to live with the consequences of their choices at the end of the day. So when listening to things like this, I do try and judge the situation for what it is, and remind myself that just because it isn't for me, it doesn't mean other people can't do it.

Except the drug taking, and the partying, and everything that goes with it, is starting to be a constant in our conversations. There is one lad in the group, that it would appear is trying to gain as much knowledge about drugs as possible, and not the kind of knowledge where you learn about what they do to you, but more what's the best to take and why. The others in the group are only to happy to share their stories, and it is starting to be a bit of a competition, and I am really starting to dislike the whole thing. For not one second does anyone concentrate on the negative effects of drug taking. In all their eyes it appears to be a wonderful thing, and just the normal thing that people do when they go on a night out. Which may mean that in their eyes I am just not normal. Which isn't something I could careless about really.

Now I am not one to keep my opinions to myself, and many times during these conversations I have been asked for my views on certain situations, and I always remain honest, and tell them that I don't like drugs in any form. This usually gets dismissed because I have never tried them, and therefore don't know what I am talking about. Which is fine with me. I don't wish to educate them about the error of their ways, because it is only my opinon. They can do it if they like, and I can choose to hate it if I want to. This constant topic of conversation is making me want to distance myself from this bunch of people though. Even though I like them, and they are decent people, I just can't stand to listen to another situation glorifying recreational drug use. In my opinion, drugs are drugs, and I just don't want to subject myself to continuous conversations of the same nature. Maybe that is small minded of me, I don't know. But if I don't have to listen to such things, I really don't see why I should.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

There is one lad in the group, that it would appear is trying to gain as much knowledge about drugs as possible

That one got me!  I remember in our Govenment class in my Senior year of HS, when the subject turned to drugs (this was in the 70s).  one Girl, an obvious waste of skin, loudly told me "Dont knock it until you have tried it!".  I told her I have not tried arsenic, but I dont think I was going to, and I was going to knock it!

her fried brain could not deal with that response!

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
It’s the same now with drugs as it was and still is now for alcohols use and abuse.

The glorification of altering your mind with a substance started with alcohol and has now continued with other substances.

Let me ask you a question, do you fell the same about people whom regale you with tales of drinking?
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I can't really knock someone else for drugs, I partook quite a bit myself in my young and stupid days.

Of course I never do drugs these days.

I need another beer and a pack of smokes.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I've tried every drug I've ever wanted and sated my curiousity.

Drugs don't lead to illumination, nor do they particularly help spur creative juices, nor do they make you smarter, help you work better or see better. Believe it or not, some of the above reasons have been spouted by some users to me.

To those I say, "Look, I tried, and I know, and you're full of shit."

There is only one reason to take certain illegal drugs and that is for recreational purposes - at that, some drugs such as alcohol and marijuana succeed highly. I have no problem with some people who want to imbibe or indulge infrequently with these controlled substances, but day-in day-out use and abuse is harmful and a waste of one's time and money.

Those glorifying recreational use of drugs are either new in the game and wide-eyed or far too into it to discuss other interests (not that they have any other developed interests as drug use is the primary ).
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top

To those I say, "Look, I tried, and I know, and you're full of shit."

You should have been in my Civics class!

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
You should have been in my Civics class! - Doc. Guy

That would have been interesting.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
You should have been in my Civics class!

Honda U?
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Keep it up, Sal. Don't stay quiet about it. I've been around them enough and done enough stupid stuff to know that drugs are not helpful in any way . . . it always makes it worse. Maybe your good influence will help someone change their mind about it.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Honda U? - MasonM

That's funny, I like that.

You aren't Mason Munson are you?
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

one Girl, an obvious waste of skin, loudly told me "Dont knock it until you have tried it!". I told her I have not tried arsenic, but I dont think I was going to, and I was going to knock it!

Hehe this kind of comment is exactly the reason I love ya Doc

Let me ask you a question, do you fell the same about people whom regale you with tales of drinking?

I'm not as extreme about drinking as I am about drugs.  Though I'm really not one for going out and getting smashed either.  I have just had first hand experience with dealing with the results of drug abuse, and it isn't nice.  It is more of a personal thing.

I can't really knock someone else for drugs, I partook quite a bit myself in my young and stupid days

Hehe...well sometimes we need to have these experiences, don't we?  It didn't do you any harm!

Drugs don't lead to illumination, nor do they particularly help spur creative juices, nor do they make you smarter, help you work better or see better. Believe it or not, some of the above reasons have been spouted by some users to me.

To those I say, "Look, I tried, and I know, and you're full of shit."

Hehe!  You see this is my probelm when discussing this kind of thing with people, because I have never tried it, so sometimes my argument is just dismissed due to a lack of experience.  Under those circumstances I am happy to lose the argument though!

Keep it up, Sal. Don't stay quiet about it. I've been around them enough and done enough stupid stuff to know that drugs are not helpful in any way . . . it always makes it worse. Maybe your good influence will help someone change their mind about it.

Thanks babe, but I don't think my influence will have much effect.  These people are to far gone with it all to want to listen, and I am not sure I care enough to make my point to them.

Do your new friends drive while intoxicated on these drugs? (Keep in mind that there is a difference between 'under the influence' and 'intoxication.') Do their personalities change to the point where they become unpredictable, saying and doing things they wouldnt normally do when sober? Do they engage in fights, promiscuous or unsafe sex, or illegal activities when they are under the influence? Do they miss work or neglect other responsibilities in the pursuit of their next buzz? Spend funds earmarked for necessities

LW, you just pretty much summed up my whole thinking on the situation.  Today the topics of conversation were the things done whilst intoxicated, and this included driving, and one night stands, and I have reached a point where I just don't want to be involved in that kind of conversation anymore.  So I'm not going to bother anymore.  They can do their own thing.  They asked me to go out with them, and though I like them, I just feel our lifestyles are to different, and therefore we should just not even go down that road.  I believe their obsession with drug taking is hiding deeper issues, that I don't even wish to touch on.

Thanks for the comments x

 

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Alcohol has no doubt caused as much, if not more, misery than any substance known to man, yet it is considered socially acceptable in spite of the fact that a large percentage of those who consume it cannot 'handle it' and end up harming themselves and/or others."

This is just misleading. I know plenty of people who go to the pub at the weekend, get drunk and work full time jobs during the week and are decent people. I don't know any heroin addicts who just shoot up on the weekend and are clean, productive members of society, during the week!

A glass of cola does not compare to snorting a line.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
"It's the same with recreational drugs, sally, most people who indulge in them, and indulge infrequently, manage to do so with few (if any) ill effects"

More bollocks, smoking weed even "recreationally" (whatever that means) can cause paranoia and also turns your brain to mush. Recreational is just a euphemism really, you can do drugs every night and call it recreation, but really you have a problem if you do.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
I used to smoke a lot of Pot because I would unwind and become more creative.

Funny enough though one time when I was high I got to thinking and realized I was only unwinding and being creative while high because I had let myself think that, I could unwind and be creative anytime.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
I've posted my most intelligent, insightful comments while I was high.......or maybe it just seemed that way.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I don't know any heroin addicts who just shoot up on the weekend and are clean, productive members of society, during the week!


I personally know MANY potheads who are clean, productive members of society during the week. And I'd wager a fair sum that the reason you don't know people who use heroin (not every user i an "addict", remember) who are clean, productive members of society during the week is because they do not "out" themselves because they have no desire to serve a lengthy prison sentence.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

Funny enough though one time when I was high I got to thinking and realized I was only unwinding and being creative while high because I had let myself think that, I could unwind and be creative anytime.

I'm glad you realised that

I've posted my most intelligent, insightful comments while I was high.......or maybe it just seemed that way

...maybe!

people who use heroin (not every user i an "addict", remember) who are clean, productive members of society during the week is because they do not "out" themselves because they have no desire to serve a lengthy prison sentence.

Yep I would have to agree with that.  You can't always judge people on how they appear, everyone has secrets!

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
I tend to agree with the viewpoint that there is something wrong if people have to brag about their exploits while on drugs. Of course, I can't say too much. I got totally blasted last night and can barely see the screen
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
"You've probably never met a real heroin addict in your life, then..."

This is so funny, my brother was an addict from the age of 16. I say was because he is dead, so don't give me all the shit of how a person can do drugs all the time and still function.

The effects of drugs are indisputable. Scientific studies have shown the effects of weed, especially on young people can cause paranoid schizophrenia and it also kills brain cells at a rate the brain cannot cope with. Not to mention being ten times more carcinogenic than tobacco.

I really do despise people who falsely tell people you can take drugs and live an otherwise normal life. The fact you get into a situation where you have to pump chemicals inside you is pathetic and repulsive. Sadly, there are many people like you within the education system and that's why I fear for many children's futures.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
"and I feel relatively safe making the assertion that my IQ is probably twice as high as yours, even when taking the test stoned."

Seeing as you seem to be one of these people who constantly has a joint on the go I doubt it. Only morons get addicted... "I can stop anytime I want to"

Yeah right!
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
The fact you get into a situation where you have to pump chemicals inside you is pathetic and repulsive.


Including coffee, tobacco, and all the over the counter legal drugs? You're a perfect example of a self-righteous asshole. Get high and mellow out.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
my brother was an addict from the age of 16. I say was because he is dead


He was an idiot. I guess it runs in the family.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm 52. I started getting high when I was 18. I've done almost every illegal drug there is. I went through 2 months of rehab. It didn't work. Later I quit on my own temporarily. I can take it or leave it.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Modern technology depletes human cognitive abilities more rapidly than drugs, according to a psychiatric study conducted at King's College, London. And the curse of 'messaging' is to blame.

Email users suffered a 10 per cent drop in IQ scores, more than twice the fall recorded by marijuana users, in a clinical trial of over a thousand participants. Doziness, lethargy and an inability to focus are classic characteristics of a spliffhead, but email users exhibited these particular symptoms to a "startling" degree, according to Dr Glenn Wilson.

The deterioration in mental capacity was the direct result of the trialists' addiction to technology, researchers discovered.

Email addicts were bombarded by context switches and developed an inability to distinguish between trivial and significant messages. Incredibly, 20 per cent of trialists jeopardized their immediate social relations by rushing off to "check their messages" in the middle of a conversation.

Wilson's research is no flash in the pan. Computer technology in its modern, "interconnected" form is dumbing down the population more rapidly than television.

A study of 100,000 school children in over 30 countries around the world testified that non-computer using kids performed better in literacy and numeracy schools than PC-using children. Education experts have dubbed it the "problem solving deficit disorder".

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Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
it also kills brain cells at a rate the brain cannot cope with


MYTH: MARIJUANA KILLS BRAIN CELLS. Used over time, marijuana permanently alters brain structure and function, causing memory loss, cognitive impairment, personality deterioration, and reduced productivity.

FACT: None of the medical tests currently used to detect brain damage in humans have found harm from marijuana, even from long term high-dose use. An early study reported brain damage in rhesus monkeys after six months exposure to high concentrations of marijuana smoke. In a recent, more carefully conducted study, researchers found no evidence of brain abnormality in monkeys that were forced to inhale the equivalent of four to five marijuana cigarettes every day for a year. The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study.

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Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Including coffee, tobacco, and all the over the counter legal drugs? "

I rarely drink coffee or tea and I don't smoke. I am not addicted to any substance.

"You're a perfect example of a self-righteous asshole."

You're the perfect example of an ostrich with it's head in the sand.

"Get high and mellow out."

I don't need to use drugs to relax.

"He was an idiot. "

He was for using drugs in the first place. Btw, he started off using weed and got intouch with dealers who supplied the harder drusg through his weed man. A route many young people follow.

"The claim that marijuana kills brain cells is based on a speculative report dating back a quarter of a century that has never been supported by any scientific study."

Wrong, A UK study from 2003 found that it DOES slow down reactions and does kill brain cells.

Drugs are wrong, they do not benefit society in any way. This is the reason they should remain illegal and people who use and supply should be dealt with more severely.