It is my life. I will only live once right? So let me die. Let me kill myself, let me eat the whole bottle of pills, let me try and Slit that big blue vein in my wrist, Let me climb to the top of the stairs and and jump with a rope around my neck. Let me borrow your gun so I can put it to my head and pull the trigger. I dont want to be here.... If you look around the world what is there? You see us fighting with other countries, you see kids looking up and seeing that its okay to be fighting and killing other people in our society, you see new laws such as NO Child Left Behind Act -its an act that will raise the amount of teenage dropouts in H.S among the US.,you see children having children, more divorces,You see kids being beaten by there own parents, you see parents allowing children to drink and do drugs, you see at the age of 10 kids lighting cigerettes up, you see Adults raping incent children. AND I ASK MY SELF WHY? WHY? WHY? . Why do I want to be here? I rather die and spare another person's life who wil make a differnce in this Diveient world!

And meanwhile, the world will continue to go to Hell in a handbasket because people who knew better selfishly took their own life rather than sticking around to make a difference.

If you truly care about the suffering of the people of the world, do you do them any service in taking your own life? NO, you just absolve your own conscience by not sticking around.

This is where messy buu had it right...if you care about those oppressive regimes, why don't you join an aid agency and go over there and help? If you get captured by guerrillas, terrorists, or what have you, and killed, you have lost nothing, right? Since you were going to die anyway, you went out in a flash instead of a slow burn. If, however, you make a difference, you will have a reason to continue.

It truly is a win-win proposition.

Suicide, like many things, is a personal choice. A bad one but a personal choice. It is a quick way out but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that people who did that are stupid. The lack of compassion that people who commit suicide feel goes beyond anything anybody who never thought of it would ever know. It is not our place to judge these people.

Edmund,

>> The best thing to do to people who failed at killing themselves is to give them a bit of a push at the top floor of the highest building one can find.

Be careful. If they survive suicide, it may be that higher powers have decided that they really shouldn't go, and they have been saved, and you have just made a statement against that.


>>To Everyone: I didnt say people who has though about commiting suicide are stupid. What i was saying is that anyone who commits suicide are both weak and stupid, especially those who did it and messed up by ending up in the hospital alive.

Make up your mind what you are saying please. One has to think about suicide before actually carrying it out. What you were also saying is that people who commit suicide and fail should be killed and are better off dead.

You said, "The best thing to do to people who failed at killing themselves is to give them a bit of a push at the top floor of the highest building one can find"

It sounds like you would back murder. I mean, as you said, you prefer these "stupid people fucking up your world" to be "helping cleanse the air by fertilizing the plants on the ground after they are buried".


>> Anyway if you have depression or something the best way to solve it is by talking to someone a friend or if you dont have any friends (probably why you are depressed.) then go and talk to a psychologyst then go to a psychiatrist to get a prescription for prozac. Anyway i just want to say as long as you are still alive you still have a chance of turning things around, lets see you do that when you are dead.

>>No what im saying is that you can change what you are as long as your alive thats why i think suicide is stupid. now for all you people who wants to commit suicide, if you kill yourself you would stop yourself from becoming a better man or woman than what you are right now. Just deal with your problems, after a while it wont seem as bad as before. (though its entirely possible that it becomes even worse. but then again that the way life is, so just deal with it! )

Things you should have put in your first post to make you look less of a complete incompassionate jerk, I believe.


>>I cant understand why so many try to kill themselves.

No, I guess you can't.

I think that every living thing in the universe strives to improve it's situation. Isn't that what suicide is all about?

It is not our place to judge these people.

what else would people do in this world if we dont get to judge other people...

...anyway the truth is suicide is a selfish thing and most people who commit suicide dont think about how it affects the people who care about them. they dont care about the feelings of all those people who love them and and how those people will feel once they are gone, all they care about is finding the easiest way out of the problem they are in. thats why im pissed off at people who commit suicide!

You're clearer now than in your initial posts. Might be you were just angry when you posted, I suppose. I apologise for calling you a jerk in my previous post.

>> most people who commit suicide dont think about how it affects the people who care about them. they dont care about the feelings of all those people who love them and and how those people will feel once they are gone, all they care about is finding the easiest way out of the problem they are in.

I truly agree with this statement.

Going through a time of depression, sitting at work unable to concentrate on anything meaningful, not quite depressed enough to cap myself, I started surfing for articles on suicide methods. I found this thread. Almost every point made here is valid, in one way or another. But one important issue has not been addressed. Consider how many "accidental" deaths may have been suicides. Though I admit it is morbid, I can semi-objectively gauge the severity of my depression by the visions in my suicidal thoughts. The positive thing about this is that I have survived many serious bouts of depression and learned from them. I can more easily tell when it is getting dangerous and time to call the doc for a change in meds or something. Conversely, I am becoming complacent about being moderately suicidal. To me it is not an unusual state.

Perhaps I sound to you like a grossly pathetic slug. If you were to meet me, you wouldn't think that --- you would never know. I have a decent management job, and work my butt off. I have a pretty good marriage and 2 good kids. I'm active in my church, PTA, etc.. You would think I was at least as normal as most. But I have frequently thought of suicide since I was in my mid-twenties (I'm in my early 40's now). Following are my stages of suicidal thought. God only knows if anyone else on Earth has similar thoughts. I hope not.

STAGE 1 - Quick Thoughts of Escape
Quick thoughts of suicide as a means of escape from the pain and drugery that life can seem to be. This can be a quick thought of "I'd just like to die". It could be a really sick suicide song going through my head, like: (to the tune of Camp Town Races) Oh I want to kill myself - do-da, do-da. Put bullet in my brain - oh do-da day! Sadly these little songs can get even worse. And then there are quick visions of suicidal acts. One that I had for years was a vision of me diving head first into one of those commercial chipper-shedders that tree trimming companies use. Other times it's a simpler vision of holding a gun to my head and pulling a trigger. As disgusting as this may sound, it still isn't serious - mainly because I don't spend a great deal of time on these thoughts. They come often but don't last long.

STAGE 2 - Planned But Not Realistic
Elaborately staged suicides. I might spend a great deal of time thinking these through. Most involve a real guillotine. These are unrealistic because they are too difficult to do. Also in this stage are thoughts about jumping off the top of skyscrapers. Because of the business I am in, this would be easy. I categorize it as unrealistic since I wouldn't go through with it because of the pain it would cause my family.

STAGE 3 - Real Plans, Hidden Suicide or Staged Accidents
I few times I have worked out plans to kill myself so that, at least hopefully, no one would know that it was suicide. One involves leaving my vehicle at a convenience store in a bad part of town with the keys and some of my own blood inside. Then I would take a cab to a steak house in another part of town, paying cash for the cab so it can't be traced. After the restaurant is closed and all employees have gone, I would climb into the dumpster, hide myself under trash, put a gun to my head and pull the trigger. If my blood leaked from the dumpster, it wouldn't be noticed due to the blood from the meat boxes. Hopefully my car would have been stolen and later found trashed and abandoned with my blood inside. I'm just another crime statistic. I've created staged car accidents, electrocutions and more. I keep coming back to the dumpster plan as it seems the most likely to succeed. The only downside I see is the outside chance of someone stealing my car, getting caught, and being wrongly convicted of my murder.

Hopefully I will never test any of my plans. In any event, do not underestimate the sucess rate of suicide attempts. Many successful ones are never realized for what they really are.

for anybody that trashes ppl who are suicidal FUCK YOU..iggnorant dum fucks!!! u have NO fuckin idea how it feels to wanna die..and therfore u have No fuckin right to be telling people that theyre wrong for feeling that way...suicide is a way of looking at life..to me it iz a comfort..ive wanted to die since i was 11..im still here, not by choice..it just happened this way...and not a day goes by when i dont think about just doing it...if u feel like u wanna die, and u have really thought it over, do it...its not like youll be missing anything..ppl say its selfish to your family and friends..well if your family and friends felt that frustration, and that hopelessness that u have inside..and they still wanted u to live..theyre the selfish ones... and when people say u have a whole wonderful life ahead of u to live, and that its a stupid decision, theyre full of shit..