Cliques on Joeuser?

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I keep seeing people mention that there are cliques here on Joeuser. I wonder how does that look? What are the cliques?

Is it like the Cripes and Bloods? Or more like school yard stuff, you know, the jocks in one corner, the geeks in another, the rich folk here, the poor folk there.?

Who are these cliques? Who is in them? Are you a member of a clique here? Do you want to be?

Inquiring mind wants to know. Are there some that are leaders of said cliques? If there are leaders there must be followers, can you name them?
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

There are no "cliques" on JU. That's a myth spread by whiny, simpering, incompetent writers who feel they should receive attention and responses equal to those of writers who put out more substantive work. I'm frankly, sick of the accusations; as a longtime member of the "top ten", I'm certain that my name has been mentioned in connection with a few of these "cliques", and I can readily assure you, I'm not a part of any. Sure, i have my favorite bloggers that I patronize, but if they put out what I consider a crappy article, I will a) not comment, or b) tell them.

The whole argument is just "sour grapes" in my opinion.

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Gideon MacLeishPosted: Sunday, June 18, 2006There are no "cliques" on JU. That's a myth spread by whiny, simpering, incompetent writers who feel they should receive attention and responses equal to those of writers who put out more substantive work. I'm frankly, sick of the accusations; as a longtime member of the "top ten", I'm certain that my name has been mentioned in connection with a few of these "cliques", and I can readily assure you, I'm not a part of any. Sure, i have my favorite bloggers that I patronize, but if they put out what I consider a crappy article, I will a) not comment, or b) tell them.The whole argument is just "sour grapes" in my opinion.


That pretty well sums it up for me too gid, BUT for others that seem to feel there are dangerous gangs of bloggers waiting to waylay them with attacks of ink thrown across cyberspace the danger MUST BE very real.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
I really don't think their are cliques on JU. I think there are friendships and certain people that just get on well together so they read each other, comment on each others blogs and stick up for each other if they think someone is getting treated badly. I think a clique would be more exclusionary. If you made a separate blog group for only your "group", that might be cliqueish.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
#3 by Locamama
Sun, June 18, 2006 6:06 PM


really don't think their are cliques on JU. I think there are friendships and certain people that just get on well together so they read each other, comment on each others blogs and stick up for each other if they think someone is getting treated badly. I think a clique would be more exclusionary. If you made a separate blog group for only your "group", that might be cliqueish.


But I am sure you have read about the cliques here, I see all kinds of accusations thrown around about this clique or that one. Where are all the people that say there are cliques? I keep wondering Am I in a clique? and don't know it? heh heh heh. Are you a secret agent for some clique trying to pry information about my knowledge of Joeuser cliques? eh he he heh
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
There are no "cliques" on JU.


Well, I don't hang around enough nowadays to really speak to the present but...

The way that I got here was through a clique. Greywar started it and dragged nearly a half-dozen of us in with him. I wish he was still around, and I wish some of the other guys would occasionally pop their heads in, too (NBS, I'm looking at you, and thinking of Geezer. That's creepy, isn't it?). But you start cliques yourself, more often than not, by excluding others.

I only read certain members habitually. I still have greywar bookmarked, but he seem to only write every other month. I read dharma a lot; I check more often than she writes. I check in on Tex about once/week, or when I notice an article that she has posted (and sometimes I have to play catch-up). It's pretty much downhill from there. There isn't anyone I actually avoid per se, but there are plenty of people I just don't read.

As far as cliques go, there can't be anything remotely like your "Cripes and Bloods" (Cripes?) comment. Any 'turf war' (to extend an already overextended metaphor) would rapidly be decided by the site admins. (See various references to SPM.) There are barely even any trolls on here... If there are any cliques, it's the JoeUser clique, then the people on the fringes, then the people who don't even post here.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Who's bitching about cliques NOW?

(BTW, I'm honored that you read me, Psuedosoldier. )
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
I would like to be an on-line gang leader especially if I could give it a cool name like insane JU posse, boiiii,in da house.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
I dont recall anyone talking about cliques.  Did I miss something?  I am not a part of any.  I read many and write in many categories.  maybe I am the generic clique?
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
I was grumping about the current state of the right-wing clique here the other day, which I guess makes me the 'whiny, simpering, incompetent writer' in question. To me I think the whole Dr. Guy/Dr.Miller/ParaTed2k/Moderateman cadre is pretty obvious, with a few others coming and going. If you think I am wrong, just watch their article comments and, say, Col Gene's articles and see who moves as a cohesive unit more often than not.

Not that I find anything wrong with that. It's just that any system that degrades to the point that there is only one cohesive group opposing and 'hell yeah'ing articles it gets old. I benefit from their attention, and I often benefit from their dissent. I'm not saying that cliquishness is necessarily a bad thing, I just think when there's not a balancing group, then discussions tend to degrade to a lot of agreeing with one another.

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
I would like to be an on-line gang leader especially if I could give it a cool name like insane JU posse, boiiii,in da house


Ooh, ooh, sign my up for that shizzzzzzle! Wassup my home skillets?

I'd like to think that I'm my own little clique.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
If you think I am wrong, just watch their article comments and, say, Col Gene's articles and see who moves as a cohesive unit more often than not.


Oh, I think COL Gene moves as a cohesive (if nearly incoherent) unit all by his lonesome.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
He used to. I don't think he really comments on other people's blogs anymore.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
LOL, the people who bitch about ColGene are the ONLY ones who pay attention to him. If people would ignore him, they could watch his articles sink.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
5 by pseudosoldier
Sun, June 18, 2006 6:25 PM


Well, I don't hang around enough nowadays to really speak to the present but...

The way that I got here was through a clique. Greywar started it and dragged nearly a half-dozen of us in with him. I wish he was still around, and I wish some of the other guys would occasionally pop their heads in, too (NBS, I'm looking at you, and thinking of Geezer. That's creepy, isn't it?). But you start cliques yourself, more often than not, by excluding others.


I remember some of those guys posting, they never excluded anyone. Neither have you far as I can see.

Myabe some will return, maybe you can fetch them and bring them back!
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
#6 by Texas Wahine
Sun, June 18, 2006 6:30 PM


Who's bitching about cliques NOW?


no bitching, just comments time to time.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
7 by Locamama
Sun, June 18, 2006 6:39 PM


I would like to be an on-line gang leader especially if I could give it a cool name like insane JU posse, boiiii,in da house.


loca momma and the wild boyz... oh can I join?
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
#8 by Dr. Guy
Sun, June 18, 2006 6:54 PM


dont recall anyone talking about cliques. Did I miss something? I am not a part of any. I read many and write in many categories. maybe I am the generic clique?


just some comments doc, no one really thinks there are cliques here I hope.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

To me I think the whole Dr. Guy/Dr.Miller/ParaTed2k/Moderateman cadre is pretty obvious, with a few others coming and going. If you think I am wrong, just watch their article comments and, say, Col Gene's articles and see who moves as a cohesive unit more often than not.

Better pull me out, as I do not read Col Klinks stuff, and I am not in the bandwagon you describe.  Sorry if I blew your conservative clique away.  Maybe it was my agreeing with Steven on a couple of occassions?

Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
#9 by BakerStreet
Sun, June 18, 2006 6:55 PM


Dr. Guy/Dr.Miller/ParaTed2k/Moderateman cadre is pretty obvious


not obvious to me, but I am honored to be in such good company. Does it make a qlique if a number of people agree on a subject? conversely if a number of people disagre and make there voices heard, is that a qlique?
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
#12 by BakerStreet
Sun, June 18, 2006 7:00 PM


He used to. I don't think he really comments on other people's blogs anymore


colgene is too good for "the likes of me" whatever that means, but I am sure it's not nice.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
"not obvious to me, but I am honored to be in such good company."


It is good company, but you can't for a moment say you can't predict with a reasonable amount of accuracy who will respond to your articles. Am I really the only one who sees it? Is it my imagination? Perhaps...

I think a lot of the people who complain about cliques in general as a negative thing are referring to the fact that many members are in contact with other members outside of the forums here. Not the group I am talking about, but the IM and email thing has been a factor in many/most of the feuds in recent joeuser history.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
I dunno if there are cliques...I will be watching to see though.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
#23 by little-whip
Sun, June 18, 2006 7:36 PM


I would like very much if you remove this whip.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
21 by little-whip
Sun, June 18, 2006 7:27 PM


'HEAD UP MY ANAL CAVITY


That's what I was smelling!....
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
#22 by BakerStreet
Sun, June 18, 2006 7:29 PM


It is good company, but you can't for a moment say you can't predict with a reasonable amount of accuracy who will respond to your articles. Am I really the only one who sees it? Is it my imagination? Perhaps...


yes I usually can predict. usually the conservatives here...

or the outraged lefty. kingbee and stevendadulas come to mind.

BTW I adore both of the pinkos to death. They are the voice of opposition.