There AIN'T A damn thing I would not do to survive.

I have no Illusions or delusions, your choice.

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I have seen several articles and replies about what a person would or would not do in order to 'SURVIVE" I see many wonderful replies about how you are above all that {you is the generic you}.

Let me be perfectly clear about this, if it came to My and colleens survival, I would "dust" anyone!, Steal food? yep, steal medications? yep. Set booby traps to kill your tresspasing ass? you betcha! When it comes to sheer survival I have no illusions about how low I would stoop in order to continue life and protect colleens life too. Many folks here do not believe in GOD. but believe in Darwin, well part of Darwin is "survival of the fittest" get it right!

So in closing do not be so quick to proclaim to the world at large what you would or would not do to live, take your pollyanna thoughts and remember if it comes to me VRS you, I will not hesitate to dust your weak moral ass."
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ha ha ha ha ha! I know that I'm probably not supposed to laugh at this, but I do anyway.
I think that most of us will do anything when it comes down to it. We, wanting to think ourselves better than we really are, say that we wouldn't kill people, etc. But let's be real. Yes we all probably would, at least for our family's sake.
Delusions or illusions aside, survival is the stronges instinct in the human body.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
The scenario that Charles gave did not require doing anything.  It only presented a down and out situation in todays societal framework.  Given the parameters he set forth, I dont see a need to go post apocalyptic.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: San ChoninoPosted: Tuesday, April 18, 2006Ha ha ha ha ha! I know that I'm probably not supposed to laugh at this, but I do anyway.I think that most of us will do anything when it comes down to it. We, wanting to think ourselves better than we really are, say that we wouldn't kill people, etc. But let's be real. Yes we all probably would, at least for our family's sake.Delusions or illusions aside, survival is the stronges instinct in the human body.


survival is the ONLY instinct we humans have, the rest is learned behavior.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Tuesday, April 18, 2006The scenario that Charles gave did not require doing anything. It only presented a down and out situation in todays societal framework. Given the parameters he set forth, I dont see a need to go post apocalyptic.


ah doc, what makes you think this was aimed at you my friend? this is a culimation of many article I have read and many replies.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top

ah doc, what makes you think this was aimed at you my friend? this is a culimation of many article I have read and many replies.

I have seen some of yours, and then Charles latest.  I just assumed that it was in reference to that one.  If not, sorry.  You can delete the post since JU still wont let us edit them.

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Tuesday, April 18, 2006ah doc, what makes you think this was aimed at you my friend? this is a culimation of many article I have read and many replies.I have seen some of yours, and then Charles latest. I just assumed that it was in reference to that one. If not, sorry. You can delete the post since JU still wont let us edit them.


well doc, it truly is just a article I have ben thinking about for a while, I hesitated writing this because the civilized {ha!} part of me did not want to upset anyones illusions about themselves.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

well doc, it truly is just a article I have ben thinking about for a while, I hesitated writing this because the civilized {ha!} part of me did not want to upset anyones illusions about themselves.

Illusioins? Oh, I have none.  Like San Chomino said, faced with the ultimate, would I?  Probably.  As you say, Survival is the strongest instinct.

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
#7 by Dr. Guy
Tuesday, April 18, 2006


Probably.


that hesitation, would allow a true predator to eat you doc, like I said I KNOW what I would do. especially since I been there.

and doc? thanx for being my friend here.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
Seeing how easily people's feathers can get ruffled, I hope that we never rely solely on instinct.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
#9 by Buddah Moskowitz
Tuesday, April 18, 2006


Seeing how easily people's feathers can get ruffled, I hope that we never rely solely on instinct.


me either, but {yes the dreaded but} Still and all My instinct is alive and well, and I am grateful for that.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agree that if push comes to shove and there is really no other way, say a Arnold terminator future scenario or a Van Dam Cyborg scenario, then I would probably be as vicious as MM would be. My article, however, was based on todays society, where most people would not condone killing someone else unless your life is being threatened, and not by booby traps either (he he he he I said booby).

BTW, MM you can be a scary person sometimes you know. .
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Here's wishing that we're not the last ones left on earth....because I'd hate to have to "make you go away".

That said, I'm sure we'd all do whatever it took to survive; ethics, morals, and laws be damned.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Charles.CPosted: Tuesday, April 18, 2006I agree that if push comes to shove and there is really no other way, say a Arnold terminator future scenario or a Van Dam Cyborg scenario, then I would probably be as vicious as MM would be. My article, however, was based on todays society, where most people would not condone killing someone else unless your life is being threatened, and not by booby traps either (he he he he I said booby).BTW, MM you can be a scary person sometimes you know. .


I was a little worried about appearing to scarey, but I don't think of myself as scarey, just REAL.

BTW i AM OLD FART mild mannered Jewish man today.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: DynosoarPosted: Tuesday, April 18, 2006Here's wishing that we're not the last ones left on earth....because I'd hate to have to "make you go away".That said, I'm sure we'd all do whatever it took to survive; ethics, morals, and laws be damned. Bonus Rating:


ah dyno, what a great answer... and btw no worries about having to make me go away.

I appreciate the realnes of your answer.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
I believe there is a difference between living and surviving.

Surviving implies an attack or obstacle of some sort. I agree with you MM...I don't know what I would do to someone else just to protect my stuff...but I would probably kill to protect my kids. I say probably only because I'm not always a good shot!
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
#15 by Tova7
Tuesday, April 18, 2006


believe there is a difference between living and surviving.


which is why I used upper case for the word SURVIVAL.
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

MM, for me whether or not I'd steal or kill,  or do whatever to survive would depend on the circumstances...

IF I was in a war-torn country, with NO chance of any kind of help, like from a church, my neighbors, friends, relatives,  THEN I"d steal.  No problem.

Would I kill?  If the lives of my loved ones or mine was in immediate danger.

I stole that lighter back in 1969 and still feel bad,  as I ought to. 

I believe that as long as there is some kind of help available,  whether it would mean growing my own vegetables, ect.  I'd prefer that to stealing.

Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm in complete agreement. If it came right down to it, I'd do whatever it took to make sure me and mine stayed alive.

I don't think anyone here knows this, but Dave's a real survivalist enthusiast. We've got a plan together should any major catastrophe happen, and we all know what to do and how to do it if the shit hits the fan.

People who say that they're above all that and that they wouldn't kill or steal to stay alive are full of poo, IMO.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Maybe this started with ParaTed2k's article...He wanted us to consider all of the jobs that royally suck. Be it jobs that we've done or jobs that we'd never do. Like would you collect feces from an elephant mid-air? Yuck. But if your survival depended on it? No problem. Ted didn't want us to go that route though...because when it all comes down to it, he knows that any one of us would stoop to any level for the means of bare survival.

Of course if there have been a lot of articles floating around JU on this topic...I see your reasoning to state your mind plain and straight.

Maybe a lot of spoiled brat Americans have lost touch with their survival instincts. These days when survival is pretty much a given, the learned behavior seems to be shunning the grunt work and going after the highest-paying jobs available.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
When I read the title the first thing I thought of was a conversation between two guys on TV. One asked "If you were lost on an island with no food, would you eat your own foot?" The other guy asked in return "could I cook it?" The first guy said "Sure." So the second guy said "Oh yeah, I'd eat my foot."

I think it is always hard for people to say what they would or wouldn't do until they are in that situation. I watched a documentary about the kids who had survived the terrorist takeover of their school in Russia. I hadn't realized at the time what those poor people had been put through. They were reduced to fighting over urine to drink to survive.

I can't say what I would do to keep myself alive but I would do pretty much anything in my power to keep my loved ones alive.
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top

One asked "If you were lost on an island with no food, would you eat your own foot?" The other guy asked in return "could I cook it?" The first guy said "Sure." So the second guy said "Oh yeah, I'd eat my foot."

I am sorry, but that is just too funny. 

Ok, back to the serious side of MM's article.

Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
#17 by Trudygolightly
Tuesday, April 18, 2006


MM, for me whether or not I'd steal or kill, or do whatever to survive would depend on the circumstances...


Again I say "SURVIVAL" those are circumstances enough.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
#18 by dharmagrl
Tuesday, April 18, 2006


I'm in complete agreement. If it came right down to it, I'd do whatever it took to make sure me and mine stayed alive.


yes!!!!

People who say that they're above all that and that they wouldn't kill or steal to stay alive are full of poo, IMO.


Elephant poo, caught in mid air? bahahhhhah with a tip o hat to ted for the elephant poo joke.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
#19 by AngelaMarie88
Tuesday, April 18, 2006


Maybe this started with ParaTed2k's article...


nope started by many replies and article about how some are above all that. bah.. your reply is real and I thank you.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
#20 by JillUser
Tuesday, April 18, 2006


think it is always hard for people to say what they would or wouldn't do until they are in that situation. I watched a documentary about the kids who had survived the terrorist takeover of their school in Russia. I hadn't realized at the time what those poor people had been put through. They were reduced to fighting over urine to drink to survive.


One hour BEFORE the terrorist attacked school I bet you if you asked one of the urine drinkers if they would EVER do it, they would have replied, ewwww no way!