Passover

God's Holiday

I have been researching Passover for some time and am now teaching about it via a women's group on Thursday mornings. This is the beginning of a series on the 7 Festivals God gave the Jews after their Exodus from Egypt. Each of these 7 festivals point to the one that would come and did come. The four Spring Festivals have been fulfilled with the remaining three Fall festivals yet to be. Just as the first four were fulfilled in Christ's first coming, the last three will be in his second.

We started with the Jewish Calendar and how it differs from ours. Their calendar is 354 days long, and one that is based on the moon (lunar) while ours is on solar time. To keep up with us and to keep their seasons right, they have added a 13th month called 2nd Adar It's considered a leap month coming on the scene 7 times during a cycle of 19 years. So on the third, sixth, eighth, eleventh, fourteenth, seventeenth, and nineteenth this month shows up. This has to be done to keep the appointed feasts in their appointed times. If not, Passover would soon be celebrated in the winter months.

There has only been one Passover. The rest are memorials only. Passover was to be celebrated during the month Nisan (Mar-April). The Jews were to take a young unblemished lamb (symbolizing innocence) from their flock on the 10th day of Nisan. On the 14th they were to kill it, eat it with their family and keep a service of Passover. The reason the lamb was picked days ahead of time and put with the family was for it to become a real sacrifice. By having this lamb in their home playing with their children or tied outside the door for all to see would serve as a reminder of what was to come.

Only three foods were required for this; the lamb, bitter herbs and unleavened bread. The lamb would be roasted by fire. Fire speaks of the judgment of God. This lamb would take the judgment in their place. The blood of the lamb would be splashed over the top and pillars of the door. This was a visible sign to all that believed. When God "passed over" Egypt in judgment that night many years ago, the Jews that obeyed were saved by the blood of the lamb.

Although Passover is only a one day event it was followed the next day by the Feast of Unleavened Bread. This Feast would last for seven days. It's mostly blurred together as a long eight day festival and Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread are used interchangeably.

Many people don't know that this holiday was so important to God that he gave the Jews an alternate date in case they were ceremonially unclean or were away from their home during this time. They would be able to celebrate the Passover on the Second Month, Iyar on the 14th day. At one point in history, during King Hezekiah's day, the whole nation celebrated Passover in the second month, and they were ashamed. The reason? The priests were unclean and the people did not have themselves together. Before this King, they were not behaving themselves and God's house was in disrepair filled with all kinds of idol worship items. Before they could celebrate the Passover much work had to be done.

The lamb was to be slaughtered "between the two evenings" or the "going down of the sun" traditionally from 3pm to 6pm. Jesus died or "gave up his spirit" at exactly 3 pm according to Luke. On the 10th day of the first month Nisan Jesus came into Jerusalem riding on a donkey. He was telling us that He would be that lamb that would take the judgment in the place of the people. He would be the Passover Lamb. His blood would be visibly shed on the wood on which he hung. Those that take this cross as their own and this Lamb as their own will be cleansed by the blood of this lamb. God will pass over them in his judgment like he did so many years before as in the day of Moses.


"Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." John the Baptist
















4,700 views 33 replies
Reply #1 Top
KFC,

Although I disagree that the spring feast is done away with as Jesus said when he took the fourth cup that he would not drink of it until we are in heaven.

This is a pretty good job on research. I would maybe suggest to you obtaining a Passover Hagadah which would enhance your knowledge regarding what was taking place during the deem "The Lord's Supper."

There are alot more parallels than you realize. For instance when (10th) he rode in on a donkey this also symbolized a king coming in peace. For a king coming to wage war come in riding a chariot. A king coming in peace rides into a city on a donkey. Also he came in a the same time as the lambs being gathered to be tied to the doorpost of the house. Which follows how he was the passover lamb.

As for the three foods there is alot more than just that. Charoset being another (it is an apple, nut, honey combo). But you are right (as far as I have studied) that only three items are mentioned.

The other piece I found missing is the removal of levening in the house. Levening represents sin. Jesus spoke about this too.

I didn't know about the King Hez bit. Will have to look into that one.

I know I have been a bit nit-picky but good job!

AD
Reply #2 Top
Interesting bit of history!  Thanks for sharing.
Reply #3 Top
This is a pretty good job on research. I would maybe suggest to you obtaining a Passover Hagadah which would enhance your knowledge regarding what was taking place during the deem "The Lord's Supper."


Thanks Dude. I am using alot of Jewish Books for research in putting all together to give the whole perspective from the Jewish and Christian point of view. Passover has alot of meaning both to Christian and Jew alike.

The other foods that you mentioned are part of the Seder service that has developed over the years. Many songs and readings also have developed, some after the middle ages.

There are alot more parallels than you realize


Yes, I know but just wanted to give the crux of the festival without going too long...next week we will get into the four cups taken during the meal. as well as the seating arrangements, etc. Maybe that will help you see where I'm going with the Spring Feasts being fulfilled. Stay tuned.

FYI....check this out.....2 Chron 30 (Hezekiah) 2 Kings 23:21-23 & 2 Chron 35:1-19 (Josiah). This last one was a Passover unlike any other Passover memorials.

Interesting bit of history


Yes, very interesting. I like His Story especially!!

Reply #4 Top
What about the cup for Elijah?

And the Afikomen
Reply #5 Top
yup, got it covered. The Afikomen is the broken half matzah that was wrapped in a white linen cloth and hidden away until after dinner when the children would try to find it. The one who finds it receives a reward. Rabbinic law requires that a small piece of the afikomen be broken off and eaten by all present as a reminder of the Passover Lamb. Pretty interesting especially in light of Christ being that lamb.

When the third cup of wine; the cup of redemption or blessing is given, that's when a child is sent to the front door to hopefully welcome Elijah. The hope is that Elijah will come in and drink his cup of wine and announce the coming Messiah. This comes from the hope in Mal 4:5.

Is that what you mean by the cup for Elijah?

Reply #6 Top
Excellent KFC.

I will be interested in hearing your basis that this feast is ended.
Reply #7 Top
Here's where I am coming from Ex. 12:14.

And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever. (KJV)

The Hebrew word there is Olam which is forever or eternity.

I await your rebuttle .
Reply #8 Top
5769 òÉåìÈí [`owlam, `olam /o·lawm/] n m. From 5956; TWOT 1631a; GK 6409; 439 occurrences; AV translates as “ever” 272 times, “everlasting” 63 times, “old” 22 times, “perpetual” 22 times, “evermore” 15 times, “never” 13 times, “time” six times, “ancient” five times, “world” four times, “always” three times, “alway” twice, “long” twice, “more” twice, “never + 408” twice, and translated miscellaneously six times. 1 long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, world. 1a ancient time, long time (of past). 1b (of future). 1b1 for ever, always. 1b2 continuous existence, perpetual. 1b3 everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternity.

Strong, J. 1996. The exhaustive concordance of the Bible : Showing every word of the test of the common English version of the canonical books, and every occurence of each word in regular order. (electronic ed.) . Woodside Bible Fellowship.: Ontario

Ok Dude, which one is it? If you look at the #1 definition underlined by me you see it can also mean long duration. The main meaning seems to say ancient time....... vs future time.

What do you do with the fact that there has been no Passovers celebrated as God commanded for over 2000 years? One command God kept bringing up repeatedly was that they could only do this "in the place God chooses." Where is that place now? The sacrificial lamb was a requisite for the Passover Feast. If so important still as you say, why isn't it being done?

Have you studied these feasts at length to see if maybe by looking at all together they don't tell the story of Christ's redemptive career?

I'll await your answers.........
Reply #9 Top
another thought Dude,

I think there is a reference somewhere that there will be a time in the future (like in the millennium) that this Passover will be reinstituted. I'm thinking it's in Zechariah. I'm not sure; it could be something else I'm thinking of, will check on that.

KFC
Reply #10 Top
KFC,

Sorry for the delay in reply. I had a quite change of plans this weekend (involving the ER it wasn't me BTW). Didn't forget ya.

Thanks,

AD
Reply #11 Top

This is great stuff KFC.  One of my previous churches had a Seder every year, from beginning to end.  The boiled egg was a mystery as no one (even the former Jews who were teaching it) knew exactly WHY it was there, though they knew it carried over from the worship of a pagan god.  I can't remember which one, maybe Isis?  A god of fertility at any rate....

Have you heard this?

Anyway, the Seder is so involved and LONG...and drinking those big goblets of wine...well I can honestly say, no wonder they couldn't stay awake in the garden when they were up all night and drinking on top of it hahahaha.  One glass of wine usually puts me out.

Reply #12 Top
hahahah well Tova, the wine was usually watered down. This was a family affair and the kids were drinking this as well so I'm sure it was pretty watered down. But again it would depend on the family.

We had a Seder last year. There was a pagan god in Jeremiah and also in Ezek and her name was Ishta.....kinda sounds like EAster and maybe that's what you're thinking of? Not sure. But they would worship her and her son in the spring. Her husband died and he was a vegetation god or something. She was called the Queen of Heaven and they would make little cakes to give her.

Some believe the worship of this Queen of Heaven mentioned in the OT has been transferred to Mary of the NT when Constantine issued an edict that Christianity would be the state religion. It was a mesh of Paganism and Christianity mixed together.
Reply #13 Top

Some believe the worship of this Queen of Heaven mentioned in the OT has been transferred to Mary of the NT when Constantine issued an edict that Christianity would be the state religion. It was a mesh of Paganism and Christianity mixed together

I am familiar with this school of thought.

But do you have any references as to how the boiled egg made it to the Seder...what it means?  I am just curious because there are many diff reasons I've heard over the years but nothing factual.

Thanks.

Reply #14 Top
5769 òÉåìÈí [`owlam, `olam /o·lawm/] n m. From 5956; TWOT 1631a; GK 6409; 439 occurrences; AV translates as “ever” 272 times, “everlasting” 63 times, “old” 22 times, “perpetual” 22 times, “evermore” 15 times, “never” 13 times, “time” six times, “ancient” five times, “world” four times, “always” three times, “alway” twice, “long” twice, “more” twice, “never + 408” twice, and translated miscellaneously six times. 1 long duration, antiquity, futurity, for ever, ever, everlasting, evermore, perpetual, old, ancient, world. 1a ancient time, long time (of past). 1b (of future). 1b1 for ever, always. 1b2 continuous existence, perpetual. 1b3 everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternity.


This is an interesting I checked multiple sources on the Strong's definitions you presented and I have yet to find one that supports your definition. I do find the same numbers as you did that's for sure. Here is what I found.

5769 `owlam o-lawm' or lolam {o-lawm'}; from 5956; properly, concealed, i.e. the vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future), i.e. (practically) eternity; frequentatively, adverbial (especially with prepositional prefix) always:--alway(-s), ancient (time), any more, continuance, eternal, (for, (n-))ever(-lasting, -more, of old), lasting, long (time), (of) old (time), perpetual, at any time, (beginning of the) world (+ without end). Compare 5331, 5703.

5956 `alam aw-lam' a primitive root; to veil from sight, i.e. conceal (literally or figuratively):--X any ways, blind, dissembler, hide (self), secret (thing).

So I see some descrepency for this. But it seems what IS consistent is the term forever or eternity.


One command God kept bringing up repeatedly was that they could only do this "in the place God chooses." Where is that place now?


True he did say he chooses the place but maybe my memory is failing but I don't recall it being linked to Passover.

Have you studied these feasts at length to see if maybe by looking at all together they don't tell the story of Christ's redemptive career?


I see part of it including Christ's redemptive career but I do not find totality from it.

think there is a reference somewhere that there will be a time in the future (like in the millennium) that this Passover will be reinstituted. I'm thinking it's in Zechariah. I'm not sure; it could be something else I'm thinking of, will check on that.


Please find this. I would be VERY interested in this scripture.

and drinking those big goblets of wine


Tova this is why most will only partially fill their glasses.

The boiled egg was a mystery as no one (even the former Jews who were teaching it) knew exactly WHY it was there, though they knew it carried over from the worship of a pagan god.


My understanding of the day is that it represents life and the renewel of life. As in when we are called out (definition of Hebrew) we become a new creature in G-D. I am not sure if I would be so quick to link it to Babylon and Ishtar. I will have to do some more research regarding that Tova. I know there are somethings in Jewish tradition that have come from Paganism that have been altered but still used. As I am studying the sacrifices and how they are done compared to the pagan sacrifices G-D deliberately has a different sacrifice than pagans. It is as if to make the point that he is separate. That's just my understanding.

But they would worship her and her son in the spring. Her husband died and he was a vegetation god or something. She was called the Queen of Heaven and they would make little cakes to give her.


Ishtar and her husband Nimrod battled for the role of "god". It is my understanding that Tammuz was killed by a wild boar when he was 16. And Ishtar was remarked at fertility god as she was the mother of god whom Tammuz went on to be the Sun G-D. This is briefly what I found.
Reply #15 Top
Tova this is why most will only partially fill their glasses


AH! Well there ya go...still even half a glass of wine and I'd be dozing!

My understanding of the day is that it represents life and the renewel of life. As in when we are called out (definition of Hebrew) we become a new creature in G-D. I am not sure if I would be so quick to link it to Babylon and Ishtar. I will have to do some more research regarding that Tova. I know there are somethings in Jewish tradition that have come from Paganism that have been altered but still used.


Yes I'd appreciate anything you can find, the reference as well...hehe. I'm not linking in necessarily to Babylon..but to a fertility God...there have been many major and minor fertility gods and I was told by a Messianic Jew that the egg was part of worshiping one of them that the Jews feel into....

So any info you have I'd appreciate...
Reply #16 Top
Sometimes a dinner party is just a dinner party...
Reply #17 Top
True he did say he chooses the place but maybe my memory is failing but I don't recall it being linked to Passover.


Deut 16:1-6....Observe the month of Abib and keep the passover to the Lord your God for in the month of Abib the Lord your God brought you forth out of Egypt by night. You shall therefore sacrifce the passover unto the Lord your God of the flock and the herd in the place which the Lord shall choose to place his name there. ......You may not sacrifce the passover within any of your gates which the Lord your god gives you: But at the place which the Lord your God shall choose to place his name in, there you shall sacrifce the passover at even at the going down of the sun at the season that you came forth out of Egypt.

Please find this. I would be VERY interested in this scripture.


Well I was right about Zech but wrong Feast. It's the Feast of Tabernacles, not Passover...it's 14:16. If you look at the very last verse it mentions sacrifice and I think I may have put both together.

Yes I'd appreciate anything you can find, the reference as wel


Tova, there's nothing in scripture about the egg. There were only three required foods and this was not one of them. I believe there are a few traditions around about this later addition and AD mentioned one of them.

Here's another; in some traditions the roasted egg is representative of the required peace offering in the temple on the second day of Passover. Not sure how or why but just something I read. Maybe someone out there has another answer for us?

Sometimes a dinner party is just a dinner party...


..... this is much more than a dinner party......

Reply #18 Top
Deut 16:1-6....


Thanks KFC. You definitely have my curiousity on this one. I will put that on my list of things to study.


Tova,

It turns out that the egg didn't come into place until after the Babylonian exile. I agree with KFC it isn't written in scripture. I'll keep looking there may be something in the Mishna or something written by the Rabbis to see if there is anything there. Hope that helps.

AD
Reply #19 Top

It turns out that the egg didn't come into place until after the Babylonian exile. I agree with KFC it isn't written in scripture. I'll keep looking there may be something in the Mishna or something written by the Rabbis to see if there is anything there. Hope that helps

I should have been more clear...I was actually talking about the Seder today...and how it is celebrated...and was wondering about the egg.

Yes, that helps AD thank you.

Reply #20 Top
Hey Dude,

I just found out another thing. Turns out I was right about the Passover being celebrated in the Millennium after all. I guess I spoke too soon. Turns out it wasn't in Zech but in Ezek. Check out Ezek 45:21-24.

So maybe in a way we are both right. You are saying that it wasn't fulfilled in Christ and that it would last forever and I'm saying he was the fulfillment of Passover and that was it. Obviously the Jews are not able to do so now and haven't for the last 2000 years. So if they are going to do so again in the future it would be as a memorial similar to our Lords Supper today.

I also was thinking of writing about the Afikomen. Do you know when that started or thought to have started? And why? It was not done in Jesus' day. It was afterwards. Pretty interesting.

Reply #21 Top
Check out Ezek 45:21-24.


I am checking and I am baffled by something. In verse 22 of Ezekiel it mentions a bull. I am looking through the pentetuech and I am not finding any record of a bull being prepared as a sin offering during Passover. I have only found a lamb. KFC have you found anything else on this?

As for the Afikomen I'll have to check with my sources and see what I can dig up.

I was actually talking about the Seder today


Seder vary as much as doctrine does. So not sure how I can help you with this one.

Interesting stuff.

AD
Reply #22 Top
I remember something about a red bull....but not the specifics...the only reason I remember it is because they were thought to be extinct but in 2001 an article came out in a Jewish paper saying one was recently birthed.

This all ties into the end times for Christians..but that's all I can remember...and my notes are packed in a box somewhere in the shed.

Yeah, I know. That didn't help a bit.

Sorry.
Reply #23 Top
The red heifer is what you are referring to Tova. It's found in only one spot...I believe Deut. Yes it's tied in with end times. It has to be an unblemished red heifer and if I remember that one that was making all the fuss a few years ago had a white hair on it....blemished. That's the last I heard of that.

am checking and I am baffled by something. In verse 22 of Ezekiel it mentions a bull. I am looking through the pentetuech and I am not finding any record of a bull being prepared as a sin offering during Passover. I have only found a lamb. KFC have you found anything else on this?


I'll check and get back, can't remember or not sure if I know but I'll look into it. Good eye Dude!!
Reply #24 Top

The red heifer is what you are referring to Tova.

Yup yup, that's it.

I wondered why I didn't hear anything much else about it...thanks for the update.

However, isn't it likely a flawed red heifer could eventually give birth to a perfect one? 

Reply #25 Top
However, isn't it likely a flawed red heifer could eventually give birth to a perfect one?


The laws of entropy give it 50-50 chance .

Things are either going towards chaos or towards organization.

I'll check and get back, can't remember or not sure if I know but I'll look into it. Good eye Dude!!


You know KFC something else that came to me about this. Jesus died on Passover not during the day of atonement which is when the 'sin sacrifice' was done for the yearly basis. Jesus is our sin sacrifice during Passover? The bull was offered as a sin sacrifice during Yom Kipur. I'm trying to see if these pieces of the puzzle fit.

AD