GAY MARRIAGE OPPOSED BY BLACKS

It is indeed insulting to compare gay weddings to segregation. I wouldn't be surprised if they start comparing the opposition to gay marriage to the Holocaust. Still, a constitutional ban would be overkill. I think we just need to make sure that we have judges that aren't so liberal that they'll discard the will of the people to promote their own nefarious agendas.

Gay people are right on when they compare themselves to say...Black people. The quote "cannot help what race you were born, but you sure can help what kind of person you become" is pure bigot nonsense. There are scientific studies that show that there is a gay gene in people. So to say you aren't born that way is most likely crazy. You can argue with it but science is still science! Saying such nonsense is like saying Gay people like to be outcasted, threatened, shunned by there family...even killed...yeah as if the whole gay popular just loves getting the sh*t kicked out of then...gosh those crazy homosexuals and there love of violence.

That Minister may have well said...how about those gay people compare themselves to Jews...since those people choose to be "evil" as well. unbelievable! at least it would show his ignorance much quicker. oh wait...i think using the word "Oriental" to describe the Asian culture just proved he isn't the sharpest knife in the block. Or maybe it was that he is a minister...yeah i think i may just have to go with that one.

whats also a life-style choice is being an Idoit...congrats.

Gay people are right on when they compare themselves to say...Black people. The quote "cannot help what race you were born, but you sure can help what kind of person you become" is pure bigot nonsense. There are scientific studies that show that there is a gay gene in people.

Really? A scientific study that has been accepted as credible? The ones I've seen have been shown to be total bull.

Saying such nonsense is like saying Gay people like to be outcasted, threatened, shunned by there family...even killed...yeah as if the whole gay popular just loves getting the sh*t kicked out of then...gosh those crazy homosexuals and there love of violence.

Many people do many things that will get them alienated, imprisoned, killed, or have other unfavorable results. For example, a teenager in a religious neighborhood turning to Marilyn Manson and Wicca. Does that mean they all had no choice in the matter?

Also, let's not forget the #1 debunker of the homosexuality is genetic theory: twins.

----Being gay is a life-style choice, ......------

I don't rememeber ever "making a choice" to like women.

If you have ever had to make a conscious decision about whether you like men or women, then I've got news for you.

YOU ARE GAY. If you "chose" to like women because it is accepted, it's called being in the closet.

I like women. I know that I could never choose to like men. It is because of this fact that I respect gays and their fight for equal rights. Just as I can't choose who I like, they can't choose who they like.

Don't feel to bad about your beliefs though. I used to be naive when I was younger. When I was in Junior High and High School, I made fun of people all the time just because they were different than I was.

Then I grew up. Take off your blinders.

I don't rememeber ever "making a choice" to like women.

That's because people are born to like the opposite sex, as this aids in procreation. Just because heterosexuality is natural does not mean that homosexuality is as well.
Also, I'm positive those men in NAMBLA don't remember "making a choice" about liking little boys. Does that make their lust for them all natural? If so, then perhaps people shouldn't be so judgmental of pedophiles, as they don't choose their lifestyles. Who would want to choose to be a pariah of society?

Don't feel to bad about your beliefs though. I used to be naive when I was younger. When I was in Junior High and High School, I made fun of people all the time just because they were different than I was.

I used to believe that homosexuality was genetic as well. Then I realized that 1) twins aren't always of the same sexual preference and 2) many things feel natural that actually aren't. I also thought that I was gay in high school because I "was different as a child" but then I realized I'm just eccentric.

GOOD POINT, SUPER BABY............... YES, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE TO BE BORN HOMO, THEN SURELY TWINS WOULD EITHER BOTH BE NORMAL OR BOTH BE HOMO!!!

Boy...you make worst points after points.

Super Baby: "Also, let's not forget the #1 debunker of the homosexuality is genetic theory: twins."
Marvin Cooley: "GOOD POINT, SUPER BABY............... YES, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE TO BE BORN HOMO, THEN SURELY TWINS WOULD EITHER BOTH BE NORMAL OR BOTH BE HOMO!!!"

LoL do you both think twins are identical to the T? If so then why do identical twins have DIFFERENT FINGER PRINTS! That is how twins can be both gay and straight. Duh!

Also since you think science is just bad theorys....you must then be the fools that wanna take Evolution out of science books....other one of your so called "debunker theorys" lol


Super Baby: "For example, a teenager in a religious neighborhood turning to Marilyn Manson"

since when is Marilyn Mason something evil? lol wow i never knew entertainers had that much power. oh my

Super Baby: "I'm positive those men in NAMBLA don't remember "making a choice" about liking little boys. Does that make their lust for them all natural?"

Liking Children under 18 is a crime. And is a sickness. That has nothing to do with consenting adults being in love. That isn't against the law.

Super Baby:"I also thought that I was gay in high school because I "was different as a child" but then I realized I'm just eccentric."

Feeling weird isn't what defines one as being gay. Thats your first problem. Being "Eccentric" is a personality lifestyle. Being gay is having sexual feelings for someone of the same sex. Both being eccentric and gay is something one can not just wake up and be. And its something one can not stop.

**I also thought that I was gay in high school because I "was different as a child" but then I realized I'm just eccentric.**

Hey Super Baby--

Do you have, or have you ever had a girlfriend? And did you think you were gay in highschool solely because you were eccentric, or did you also find some of the guys at your school attractive?

It seems to me you are hiding from the truth, and the only way for you to feel OK about yourself is to deny that "being born gay" is possible, and therefore, you could not possibly be gay.

This is understandable, with the way that gays are scorned and ridiculed in today's society. But just because you can't face the truth, there is no reason to hold down those with the courage to come out.

Also, your twins argument is laughable. Why is it possible for twins that are raised in the same environment to exhibit different personality traits from a young age? If you do some research on the twins argument and find conclusive evidence that it is true, let me know.

By the way, do you happen to be religious?

LoL do you both think twins are identical to the T? If so then why do identical twins have DIFFERENT FINGER PRINTS! That is how twins can be both gay and straight. Duh!

I did a quick search on it, and as this page shows, genes only set the pattern of fingerprints, which is why even if they are different, they do have similarities. Also, twins still have the same DNA and genetics.

Also since you think science is just bad theorys....you must then be the fools that wanna take Evolution out of science books....other one of your so called "debunker theorys" lol

So, because I don't believe in science that's been debunked, I must not believe in evolution? How odd.

since when is Marilyn Mason something evil? lol wow i never knew entertainers had that much power. oh my

So you've never seen that some teenagers have turned "goth" to rebel against their parents. It happens, even if you are unaware of it.

Liking Children under 18 is a crime. And is a sickness. That has nothing to do with consenting adults being in love. That isn't against the law.

Homosexuality used to be a crime and a sickness. Also, even if it is, how does that change the fact that they were born that way?

Do you have, or have you ever had a girlfriend? And did you think you were gay in highschool solely because you were eccentric, or did you also find some of the guys at your school attractive? It seems to me you are hiding from the truth, and the only way for you to feel OK about yourself is to deny that "being born gay" is possible, and therefore, you could not possibly be gay. This is understandable, with the way that gays are scorned and ridiculed in today's society. But just because you can't face the truth, there is no reason to hold down those with the courage to come out.

This is why I have lost respect for homosexuals and supporters of them, because they want to pressure me into believing that I'm gay, which is funny, considering that when I acted gay, I wasn't ridiculed or scorned. Why is it that a straight man who "realizes" he's a homosexual is clearly a homosexual, while a "homosexual" who realizes he's straight is a homosexual in denial?

Also, your twins argument is laughable. Why is it possible for twins that are raised in the same environment to exhibit different personality traits from a young age? If you do some research on the twins argument and find conclusive evidence that it is true, let me know.

Are you saying that personality is genetic, and that nobody chooses to be how they desire to be? If so, then nobody should criticize anybody else, as nobody chooses to be that way, whether it be a jerk, a bigot, a panzy, etc.

By the way, do you happen to be religious?

Nope.

do you both think twins are identical to the T?

Indeed. There was a show that talked about twins, and it talked about 2 women, one was a very successful lawyer and other hardened criminal, and they are NOT frat twins, but identical.

Did I ever say that identical twins lived exactly the same lives, or do people think that genetics define one's life all the way to death? Nature vs. nurture, and if the argument is that identical twins live different lives because they have different experiences, then I think this disproves the idea that homosexuality is genetic even moreso, since we're suggesting that it's one's own experiences that cause them to be gay, and not genetics.

to say that ones environment impacts whether they are straight or gay is crazy. People who come out of religious families come out that they are gay once they get away from that horrible environment because they cant stand to lie about who they really are. or they must stay in the closet for fear of there parents disapproval.

SuperBaby you say that when you were "acting gay" no one made fun of you...well congrats that the people around you where mature. But to say that its like that everywhere is being naive.

SuperBaby: "Homosexuality used to be a crime and a sickness. Also, even if it is, how does that change the fact that they were born that way?"

No it was never a "sickness" that was close minded religious people who think homosexually was a sickness and had people committed for help or shock therapy as if they could cure something that isn't a disease. Because if you feel that its a sickness then being Heterosexual is just as much a sickness.

SuperBaby: "So you've never seen that some teenagers have turned "goth" to rebel against their parents. It happens, even if you are unaware of it."

uh lol, of course I'm aware of people who enjoy marilyn manson. and just because a someone enjoys goth music makes them a rebel? lol. why cant the person just like the music and culture. i guess you think anyone who likes any music of any type must be rebelling against there parents. do you live in the movie footloose by any chance? if so be careful of Kevin Bacon...hes a "wild one" don't make him turn you to the dark side of .....MUSIC! eekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

SupeBaby: "This is why I have lost respect for homosexuals and supporters of them, because they want to pressure me into believing that I'm gay"

lol yes don't you just hate those gays and gay supporter for always trying to turn people gay lol there like everywhere! run run runnnnnnnnnn stay under your bed where the crazy gays cant get you and turn you in to a flesh eating zombie.

Superbaby: "Why is it that a straight man who "realizes" he's a homosexual is clearly a homosexual, while a "homosexual" who realizes he's straight is a homosexual in denial?"

if a straight man doesn't like women to begin with but dates them he is in the gay in denial. If a gay person dates someone of the same sex but likes someone from the opposite sex....they are also in denial....there is no difference.

Superbaby: "Are you saying that personality is genetic, and that nobody chooses to be how they desire to be? If so, then nobody should criticize anybody else, as nobody chooses to be that way, whether it be a jerk, a bigot, a pansy, etc."

Studies show (the kind you don't believe) that a human shows there personality at 3 years old. being a bigot is something learned...its not part of someones personality. its part of someones belief. and with the right education in the matter...the person can stop being a bigot. As for a jerk...of course thats part of someones personality.

but as for "pansy"... thats not a personality...thats something gay basher would say.

to say that ones environment impacts whether they are straight or gay is crazy. People who come out of religious families come out that they are gay once they get away from that horrible environment because they cant stand to lie about who they really are. or they must stay in the closet for fear of there parents disapproval.

If environment does not come into play, then identical twins should be of the same sexuality.

SuperBaby you say that when you were "acting gay" no one made fun of you...well congrats that the people around you where mature. But to say that its like that everywhere is being naive.

I never said it was like that everywhere. Take it in context.

No it was never a "sickness" that was close minded religious people who think homosexually was a sickness and had people committed for help or shock therapy as if they could cure something that isn't a disease. Because if you feel that its a sickness then being Heterosexual is just as much a sickness.

Yes, it was considered a sickness by closed minded people, just like pedophilia and incest are consider sicknesses by closed minded people. As for treating heterosexuality just like homosexuality, well... Heterosexuality has a purpose (i.e. procreation), and is what keeps the human race alive. Same can't be said, of homosexuality.

uh lol, of course I'm aware of people who enjoy marilyn manson. and just because a someone enjoys goth music makes them a rebel? lol. why cant the person just like the music and culture. i guess you think anyone who likes any music of any type must be rebelling against there parents. do you live in the movie footloose by any chance? if so be careful of Kevin Bacon...hes a "wild one" don't make him turn you to the dark side of .....MUSIC! eekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

I provided a specific example of how one turns goth to be a rebel. I never implied that all goths are rebels. Please take everything I say into context.

Studies show (the kind you don't believe) that a human shows there personality at 3 years old. being a bigot is something learned...its not part of someones personality. its part of someones belief. and with the right education in the matter...the person can stop being a bigot. As for a jerk...of course thats part of someones personality.

So three-year-olds show their personality and cannot change it anyway? I wonder how I changed my personality. I must be a God to have had that ability. Also, since they can't change their personality, maybe people should be nicer to those who were born jerks, perverts, etc.

but as for "pansy"... thats not a personality...thats something gay basher would say.

I didn't realize that word was reserved for homosexuals. You shouldn't assume things.

Also, I just realized that if it takes three years for a child to gain his personality, that is not genetic.

Super Baby Posted: "Also, I just realized that if it takes three years for a child to gain his personality, that is not genetic. "

No one said that personality is genetic. You become who you become.

Super Baby Posted:"I didn't realize that word was reserved for homosexuals. You shouldn't assume things."

a "Pansy" is what a person would call a feminine man. Thus they would think they were "gay". Next time know what it means before you think anyone is assuming.

Super Baby Posted:"If environment does not come into play, then identical twins should be of the same sexuality."

Once again you think that identical twins are supposed to be two of the same people. like a clone. They may look alike but there are many differences in the them. Like Finger Prints just to name one. Do you think that if one twin gets cancer the other twin will get cancer at the same time since they are "identical" ....well they don't. Try reading up on twins. You could learn alot.

Super Baby Posted:"Yes, it was considered a sickness by closed minded people, just like pedophilia and incest are consider sicknesses by closed minded people. As for treating heterosexuality just like homosexuality, well... Heterosexuality has a purpose (i.e. procreation), and is what keeps the human race alive. Same can't be said, of homosexuality."

Don't be ridiculous! Comparing Pedophilia to Homosexuality is just ludicrous! You are comparing Two consenting adults to an adult raping a child. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are really sick and need to seek help.
And what does incest have anything to do with anything. It is legal to marry your cousin...what ever two consenting adults wanna do is there business just like homosexuality.

Also you think that heterosexuality has a purpose .... procreation. ok then whats the purpose of Nuns and Priests? They don't procreate so they are just as "evil" as homosexuals. They must also have the "sickness" since they don't want to procreate.

What about men and women who aren't able to "procreate" should we kill them since they aren't having babies? We have billions of people starving and your worried about there being more people on the planet. lol

No one said that personality is genetic. You become who you become.

Once again you think that identical twins are supposed to be two of the same people. like a clone. They may look alike but there are many differences in the them. Like Finger Prints just to name one. Do you think that if one twin gets cancer the other twin will get cancer at the same time since they are "identical" ....well they don't. Try reading up on twins. You could learn alot.

If you really understand the difference between what's genetic and what's learned, then you should understand that identical twins have the same exact DNA, genes, etc. because those are genetic. Finger prints, as I already explained are not entirely based on DNA. Receiving cancer isn't either, unless you're insisting that lung cancer isn't caused at all by smoking. If you disagree, then please provide some evidence that identical twins don't have the same exact DNA and genes. Any link will do. Just read some of those pages on fingerprints, and tell me if it says that identical twins have different genes. You're going to be surprised.

Don't be ridiculous! Comparing Pedophilia to Homosexuality is just ludicrous! You are comparing Two consenting adults to an adult raping a child. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are really sick and need to seek help.

When did I condone rape? Learn to respond and not to react please.

And what does incest have anything to do with anything. It is legal to marry your cousin...what ever two consenting adults wanna do is there business just like homosexuality.

So I could marry anybody of the opposite sex that is of age?