Surrender?

So you can surrender in GCII?

I've seen on all pictures of race relations that you can surrender to an enemy as a diplomic action. What does this button, do does it mean that it ends your game, or do you become that race and play them? Any ideas or knowledge on this?
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It ends the game. YOU ARE DEFEATED!

Long time ago I was trying to figure out how to demand surrender from the Torians (not knowing that it is not an option).

Somehow I clicked surrender and send. The Torian thanked me very much.

Of course I restarted from autosave but it was still embarrassing to be way ahead and accidentally surrender
Reply #2 Top
Guess I better not push it, especially if I haven't autosaved yet... Still I wander why they put that as a diplomic action even though if you know your going to lose anyway. You could just quit and start another game and or load a presaved game. I think that the surrender button is a little redundant. Don't you?
Reply #3 Top
It would be kind of neat if, after you surrendered, you got to see the rest of the game play out to see how it all ends - and see if your surrender helped whomever you gave your empire to beat the other guys. hehe
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Still I wander why they put that as a diplomic action even though if you know your going to lose anyway. You could just quit and start another game and or load a presaved game.


Some people like to play their games through to the end, even if they lose. Also, if you're playing on the Multiverse, you still get points for lost games, but the game must be finished.

It would be kind of neat if, after you surrendered, you got to see the rest of the game play out to see how it all ends - and see if your surrender helped whomever you gave your empire to beat the other guys.


Yeah, I've thought about this when I read the Altarian Downfall gameplay example. I want to know who finally won...
Reply #5 Top
It would be kind of neat if, after you surrendered, you got to see the rest of the game play out to see how it all ends


Yeah, I recall there was a way you could set up AI against AI in Alpha Centauri and it was interesting to watch. I used it to test custom factions.
Reply #6 Top
I'd love that. That way at least you get to see the end of the "story" even though you're not a part of it yourself.
Reply #7 Top
Yeah, that would be cool. I wonder if it'd work, though. Maybe the AI needs a human competitor to interact with to be really effective...
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I think the biggest difficulty would be making it so the rest of the game would display in any meaningful way. A list of events isn't that compelling, actually watching each civ do everything their doing isn't practical or desirable, just showing battles leaves too many gaps in the story, etc. I guess you could set up a short blurb in your surrender screen that says something like, 'After x more years, the y civilization finally removed all opposition, blah blah,' but it seems like that's not really worth the effort that would have to go into programming the system to continue the game internally after the player's eliminated.
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Yes, all you would see is movement and battles. The AI doesn't need a human because it interacts with the other AI throughout the game but the random events UP etc are for humans only.