With His Stripes We Are Healed

What Is It You Would You Have Him Do?

How truly sad it must be for the agnostics, atheists and unbelievers to watch their children have to suffer with sickness and disease and not be able to approach the throne of God with boldness to ask for their healing. Though I have often tried, I just can not imagine that defencelessness one must expericence when danger is present and you are caught unaware and without any armor what-so-ever to help protect your life or best interests that are at stake from harm. It would be far worse than driving your automobile without any insurance.
In reading Isaiah 53:5, I can take great comfort in knowing that Christ was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed.
I have often read this passage and always taken it to mean that if I was sick in body that I could ask God to heal me and that He would hear me and answer accordingly. I have only recently come to realize that it holds much deeper meaning. Not just for me and my body or the people that I care about but everyone.
He was with my aunt, my cousin, my friend and myself that day down in Kentucky when we were on a very steep down grade and the breaks on our van went completely out and the light at the foot of the hill was red and traffic was crossing through and we needed to call on Him.
The Lord has also touched my body a number of times when I was ill and needed to be healed. He was with me that day in the emergency room when I had my heart attack. He was there in the operating room when I had to undergo heart surgery. He was right there with me in the recovery room when I woke up and was on a respirator that was breathing for me.
What a horrible feeling it was to wake up and try to breath only to realize that I couldn't. Such a feeling of shock to think that this is my time, I'm just going to lay here now and die.
Thats when I felt my insurance kick in. That sweet peace in knowing that everythings going to be alright because I am armor protected and He is right here with me.
By His stripes we are healed. Its so deep. So beyond just me and my petty sicknesses. What about on 9/11 when so many dear loved ones had their lives snuffed out without a moments notice? He knew when they were beating Him way back then and laying those bloody stripes all over His body that they were being placed there for the healing of so many broken hearts that would be left in agony in the City of New York the year of 2001.
What is it you would have Him to do for you? Are you sick in mind or body or know someone else who may be, that needs a touch? Perhaps you are going through a terrible divorce and your heart is being torn apart like you never knew that it could be. Maybe you have just lost a close loved one and just don't know how to cope with the loss.
Just take it to Him right now, He is there. GCJ
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I tend to think more that god would be upset that you didnt maintain yoru breaks before driving around your loved one, than he would be gracious in saving you.
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It wasn't my Van and I wasn't driving but who really cares what you think anyway? GCJ
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GCJ – I can’t really say that much to agree with you.

The amount of times I have prayed and requested Gods help over various stages of my life, and the amount of times he hasn’t come through is roughly the same.

I respect you for having your beliefs, and admire the fact that you still welcome the concept that God will help you, but I have come to the blunt realisation that the only person who can help me is myself, and if I happen to be saved by some miracle that appears divine, I will put it down to luck and karma.

May God help you all he wants… but please don’t feel sorry for us, because my children will be fine… I trust the human brain and the concept of science to help my children, and they will be showered in love from me and my family, they don’t need divine intervention, and to tell you the truth, I don’t want to get my kids hopes up.

BAM!!!
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that came out alot more harsh than intended.   The point was that "The Lord Helps Those Who Help Themselves".   Less time praying and more time being proactive should be the mantra.
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As I have always believed, it never hurts to put feet on your prayers. GCJ
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Muggaz, you say you don't need devine intervention and that you will trust the human brain and science but where do you assume this knowledge comes from? God has made man in His own image. How is it that man is ever so increasing in knowledge and yet unable to come to the knowledge of the simple truth? Please don't be deceived into thinking that luck or karma may save you. Its simply not the case. God is not there to be put to the test. Thats what we are here for.
I didn't write this blog to convert the unbelievers. I only wanted to expand on the reasons that Christ undertook such beatings. It wasn't only for the healing of our bodies but also the healing or our minds and hearts.
Its ok for whomever not to believe. God will deal with them in His own way and in His own time. GCJ
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"The Lord Helps Those Who Help Themselves".


That quote should be plastered all over JU. I gave it insiteful Jeremy.

BAM!!!
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God has made man in His own image


Ah, The simple process of evolution seems to be escaping you... If i were to beleive their is a God, he looks like a hairy monkey based on what you just said.

Its ok for whomever not to believe. God will deal with them in His own way and in His own time


God won't be dealing with me my friend... If he was who he said he was, i would obviously be on the path to damnation, and the ever benevolant God, he would obviously be trying top help me. God cant pick and choose who he helps... theoretically, he should be helping everyone... looks like i am going in circles again.

BAM!!!

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That you certainly are Muggy.
If you have read anything about recent findings concerning evolution, then you would know that the process of evolution does change the appearance of creatures ever so slightly over long periods of time, so that they are able to make adjustments to their environments but they do not evolve into other creatures such as a monkey or ape changing into a man. If this were the case then please explain why there are still monkeys and apes? Wouldn't they all have changed into men by now? Sorry but the evolution theory has been disproved by sicence itself. GCJ
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If you have read anything about recent findings concerning evolution, then you would know that the process of evolution does change the appearance of creatures ever so slightly over long periods of time, so that they are able to make adjustments to their environments but they do not evolve into other creatures such as a monkey or ape changing into a man. If this were the case then please explain why there are still monkeys and apes? Wouldn't they all have changed into men by now? Sorry but the evolution theory has been disproved by sicence itself.


The cluelessness is this post is rampant. Recent findings? Quote them. Ever so slightly? Everything evolved from bacteria.

No one said we evolved from chimpanzees. The theory states that we and chimpanzees have a common ancestor. It is not a magical transformation from a gorilla to a man.

Learn some science before you knock it; otherwise, keep your ignorance to yourself and your Jesus-freak friends.
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The cluelessness is this post is rampant. Recent findings? Quote them. Ever so slightly? Everything evolved from bacteria.

No one said we evolved from chimpanzees. The theory states that we and chimpanzees have a common ancestor. It is not a magical transformation from a gorilla to a man.

Learn some science before you knock it; otherwise, keep your ignorance to yourself and your Jesus-freak friends.


A transition without transitional forms? Oh, wait a minute, let's make something up like Archaeoraptor liaoningensis and declare it as a transitional form.
As for the original poster keeping his ignorance to himself, it is his blog. You are but just a visitor here who is allowed to speak.
As I told you before, create your own blog and write away.

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A transition without transitional forms?


I guess you've never heard of the genus Australopithecus or the other species of our genus Homo, which have been found in fossil form, not in fantasy-fiction form. But, as usual, I'm sure the facts don't interest you.
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I certianly appreciate your post GCJ... I was reading that very passage earlier today, before I read your post, and that verse always gets me. "He was peirced for our transgressions and by his stripes we are healed" And you're right, it's not only physical healing.
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I guess you've never heard of the genus Australopithecus or the other species of our genus Homo, which have been found in fossil form, not in fantasy-fiction form. But, as usual, I'm sure the facts don't interest you
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Of course I have heard of them. That genus (Lucy and all) suffers from several inconsistancies to what would accepted as in the line of man. First, there are issues with the brain cavity being too small, the claim that they walked upright has been refuted by many paleoanthropologists, the skull of lucy in particular has been shown to be more chimpanzee like than human. Even the diggings themselves have issues. Also, several of the other fragments in the genus have been questioned as being from young apes whose features are more humanlike in their youth than when they are full grown. If you want links I invite you to use Google.

The fact they existed in clear, the "fact" that they are related to humans is dubious at best. It still is not proof of anything and not positive transitional form.

But we digress from the original topic don't we.
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Such a Christian message to be passed to your fellow man, "It wasn't my Van and I wasn't driving but who really cares what you think anyway?" That completely defines your religion. Such a flaming in hell hypocrite. Constructive criticism strike a nerve, Bub? Nice way to lash out and smack whatever gets in your face. Such a fitting tribute to your namesake "Joseph". Amen, brother, keep the faith.
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That genus (Lucy and all) suffers from several inconsistancies to what would accepted as in the line of man. First, there are issues with the brain cavity being too small, the claim that they walked upright has been refuted by many paleoanthropologists, the skull of lucy in particular has been shown to be more chimpanzee like than human. Even the diggings themselves have issues. Also, several of the other fragments in the genus have been questioned as being from young apes whose features are more humanlike in their youth than when they are full grown. If you want links I invite you to use Google.


I can also use Google to find links telling me that all of the science is perfectly solid. If you want to back your case up, give your own damn links.


It still is not proof of anything and not positive transitional form.


Science admits no proof, only evidence. Clearly, whether you believe that Australopithecus is our ancestor or not, the notion that the transitional forms went extinct is not outrageous.


But we digress from the original topic don't we.


What fun is JoeUser if y'don't?
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Voodoostation trolled but is the fun of JoeUser as well. His analogy lacks any sense, I think there were drugs involved.

As for links I can certainly provide them as I am sure you can (but have not). So I think my case is backed up as much as yours. However, I can assure you that no link you can provide will prove your argument.
The notion that the transitional forms went extinct IS as outrageous as believing in a god or subscribing to the idea that we are the spawn of aliens from outerspace. Haven't you seen the evidence that "Chariots of the Gods" provides?
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This is a nice article! I can't imagine getting through a day without prayer.
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However, I can assure you that no link you can provide will prove your argument.


Since I just said that science admits no proof...


The notion that the transitional forms went extinct IS as outrageous as believing in a god


Um...don't you believe in a God?
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Um...don't you believe in a God?
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But of course. My point is that just as you would consider a belief in god is outrageous I would counter that the notion that the transitional forms went extinct IS equally outrageous.
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I guess you've never heard of the genus Australopithecus or the other species of our genus Homo, which have been found in fossil form, not in fantasy-fiction form. But, as usual, I'm sure the facts don't interest you.
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Since I just said that science admits no proof...
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So, all the fossils prove nothing which makes them not fact?
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I would counter that the notion that the transitional forms went extinct IS equally outrageous.


Why is that, exactly? Where are the creatures whose skulls these are? Do you see them walking around? No? Hm, could it be because they're extinct? Are the dinosaurs still alive?


So, all the fossils prove nothing which makes them not fact?


Their existence is factual; what they imply can never be PROVEN because nothing in science can be PROVEN. When you learn how scientific theories work, then we can talk.
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Why is that, exactly? Where are the creatures whose skulls these are? Do you see them walking around? No? Hm, could it be because they're extinct? Are the dinosaurs still alive?

You assume they are transitional forms to humans, that is your error.

Their existence is factual; what they imply can never be PROVEN because nothing in science can be PROVEN. When you learn how scientific theories work, then we can talk.

, I am very aware of how scientific theories work. You were simply dancing around with implying that the genus Australopithecus was a transitional form to man (a point that is questioned my many) as if that was proof of transitional forms that then proved or implied that evolution was true.
You should keep your ignorance about God to yourself and your Dawin-freak friends and find a forum you do agree with instead of trolling around the Religion forum like a street urchin trying to stir up trouble about something you know absolutely nothing about.
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Are you two arguing about evolution again? Why don't you write your own forum and argue away?