AncientEmperor

Join Date 09/2008

unit defects and questions

Idk if any one has noticed but I think the garda flak and kodiak do the same average auto cannon damage. not sure cause I haven't played tec in awhile, but I only noticed when I was attacking a terran worlds nuetral militia.

How come the vasari did not recieve a long range bomber like the tec and advent? Yea the mine cruiser thing is cool but almost useless, seems like the ai finds there way around the mines.

How come only the orkulus(vasari starbase) can move?

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okay, first off, i have noticed these things and no they arent defects. they are simply parts of the game

1. garda flak and kodiak do do roughly the same damage, but i think the kodiak has more forward facing banks, therefore it means more of its ADO (Average Damage Output) per autocannon is directed at the target it is firing at, whereby the garda does the same damage per autocannon, but on only 2 or 1 targets per weapon

2. i dont play vasari much, but i thought the Kanrak Assailant was the Vasari LRF? maybe im wrong, but im pretty sure it is

3. i agree the mine cruiser is almost useless, but its good for hit and run cluttering of an enemy GW

4. the Vasari are much more powerful than the other two races (theoretically) and therefore it was assumed that, logically, their starbase should be able to move, due to their mastery of the manipulation of normal and phase space

hope that answers your questions

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How come the vasari did not recieve a long range bomber like the tec and advent?

If you are talking about Entrenchment, it is because their SB can move. You build it up out of range and then let it siddle up to the other SB and they slug it out...

As for Kodiaks vs Garda - you may want to also look at what kind of damage they do as the damage modifiers vs various armor types alters the actual amount of damage done....

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Dude Grada damage is split along 4 guns, so it can't bring all the damage to a single target. Furthermore the damage type of Kodiak is composite vs anti-v.light (I believe) of the drada.

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How come the vasari did not recieve a long range bomber like the tec and advent?....
How come only the orkulus(vasari starbase) can move?

Because the developers wanted all the races to be different, not just look different. If you want to play where all the races are the same, 1) pick your race, 2) set all AI players to the same race you picked, 3) problem solved.

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i was merely bringing up some issues with entrenchment that i thought could use some enlightening answers. like i said i have not played tec in a while i play mostly vasari and advent, but the point i really wanted to bring up and should have mentioned is i think the kodiak is underpowered for it's size. it's the largest tec cruiser but only does 15 autocannon damage i think they should at least raise the damage output to 20-25 or add laser batteries or missile banks. of course not too much we don't want to over power it but at least balance it's damage output to its size. i understand that the vasari are more advanced then the tec and advent but the advent are supossedly right up there with them, and from what ican remember the tec are only technologically inferior cause they had no reason to upgrade weapons for 1,000 yrs i'm not saying they should be as advanced now but with entrenchment they should have at least recieved a tech boost. yes there are beam upgrades and a few others, but they should have thrown in a few more upgrades to try and follow the story line. just to remind u i'm only pointing out some issues that i would like some logical answers to.

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read and learn.

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/177682

and

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/305565

pay extra careful attention to the notion of different damage types vs. different armor types. notice that garda's do anti-verylight damage and that kodiaks do composite damage. notice that anti-verylight only does full damage to fighter squadrons and does greatly reduced damage to everything else. notice that composite does full, almost full, or bonus damage to pretty much everything.

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in case no one notices i edited my reply

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Numbers taken from the data files and calculated in Excel

Anti-Fighter (Anti-VeryLight damage):

15.33	Damage
22.995	vs. V Light
11.4975	vs. Light
3.8325	vs. Medium
3.8325	vs. Heavy
3.8325	vs. V Heavy
3.8325	vs. Capital

Heavy Assault (Composite Damage):

18	Damage
18	vs. V Light
27	vs. Light
22.5	vs. Medium
18	vs. Heavy
22.5	vs. V Heavy
13.5	vs. Capital

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Also

How come the vasari did not recieve a long range bomber like the tec and advent?

because their starbase can move

How come only the orkulus(vasari starbase) can move?

because Vasari don't have torpedo cruisers.

Yea the mine cruiser thing is cool but almost useless, seems like the ai finds there way around the mines.

Vasari have Mine cruisers because they don't have a specialize frigate to deploy their stargate. It is also the best way to deploy mines out of the 3 races by far. TEC can't deploy the miens everywhere, and Advent need a carrier, which is expensive by comparison.

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